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How can you be a real life Wizard ? (wise one

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 08:51 PM

Moses was a Druid. lolol

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 08:53 PM

View PostThe world needs you, on 09 June 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

From a believers perspective don't we all get our power from God? From the Universe? Just waking up and breathing. Of course we can claim it is our will and power alone. We all use this same energy and at times we can let it use us. Why is magic any different than the mundane in this regard?  Moses and the magicians of the Pharaoh worked on the same principles within the framework of that myth in my view.

The story states they were instructed by god to perform this and the intention was to get the pharoah to release the slaves as appose merely to do a trick.. to me there is a difference in giving god the glory, it shows that truly we did not do this work on our own and that there is a higher purpose to our actions and desires and also that we would be in awe and not claiming to know the exact power rather than in a boastful stance.

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 08:58 PM

I agree. He should have not claimed it was himself.

I don't think the Pharaoh's magicians were just doing tricks a la parlor magic but were serious about their craft.

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 10:11 PM

Yes Moses did get in trouble. I think at the end when he used his magick staff.
Yes it was a magic staff...
to get water out of the rock.
Then he said didn't say in name of God by God's power....
he got in trouble.

Jesus on the other hand could just do things with the wave of his hands..
he was more powerful. he didn't need the magic staff.

The question is... with Christians are there any more Moses or Jesuses out there?
and if so how much money are they pulling down after taxes ?

Also isn't there this occult book called the Sword of Moses..
that teaches his powers?
I mean they just say God gave it to him...
but once he had it.. he had to have some technique to use it..
like on his last miricle he just said I'm will make water fall from the rock...
then touched it with his staff...

Then again Monks with Chi Energy.. and break bricks...
move objects across a table.. and levitate..
and they have no magic staff... it's all in their mental strenght..
and ancient wisdom and practicing it..

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 10:23 PM

View PostR4z3rsPar4d0x, on 09 June 2013 - 06:08 PM, said:

DarkWind what are your views on Aleister Crowley?

I know the question was not for me. But I read about him, watched his documentary.

I think he really wanted to contact demons and the darkside.

He grew up some kind of Christian and was happy with his father in his childhood.
But when his father died.. it seemed he lost all hope.
And his whole life he was full of anger and hate.

He even stated he wanted to to the darkest magicks possible..
and most perverse and nasty things he could to rebel...

I think he was smart, just a little crazy.

Him reading and learning a lot about magick was pretty cool.
I don't agree, with the sex , and STDs, and eating of human feces.

But hey if that is what made him happy excellent! lol
He was also a drug addict.

In my personal opinion though,
if he was truly an all powerful Sorcerer...
he could have cursed his Tubercolusis or whatever he had.
If he was more powerful he could have made a pact with a demon
to get rich again.. after going bankrupt..
since to him nothing was wrong or evil..
and he was crazy enough to summon demons
WITHOUT the magic circle..
then I would say just do what ever spell or super natural thing
at any cost to get what you want.. since he didn't care about any consequences...
to his actions etc..


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Posted 09 June 2013 - 10:23 PM

View PostThe world needs you, on 09 June 2013 - 08:58 PM, said:

I agree. He should have not claimed it was himself.

I don't think the Pharaoh's magicians were just doing tricks a la parlor magic but were serious about their craft.

Yeah I didnt mean parlor tricks...

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 01:15 AM

The question is are there any Wizards today as powerful
as Moses.. or the Pharoah's Magicians?

What do you think ?


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 03:54 AM

View PostLostSouls7, on 10 June 2013 - 01:15 AM, said:

The question is are there any Wizards today as powerful
as Moses.. or the Pharoah's Magicians?

What do you think ?

I havent seen it with my own eyes...

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 04:59 PM

Crowley was an idiot. He just wanted to make a show, which he did and he paid for it. This not about making a show, it is about learning, understanding and hopefully in the end wisdom.  Isaac Bonewits wrote a book called Real Magic, read that, throw Crowley in the trash where he belongs. Bonewits was a good person and did a lot for the Pagan movement. He is gone now, but his spirit lives on.

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 07:46 PM

View PostDarkwind, on 10 June 2013 - 04:59 PM, said:

Crowley was an idiot. He just wanted to make a show, which he did and he paid for it. This not about making a show, it is about learning, understanding and hopefully in the end wisdom.  Isaac Bonewits wrote a book called Real Magic, read that, throw Crowley in the trash where he belongs. Bonewits was a good person and did a lot for the Pagan movement. He is gone now, but his spirit lives on.

I'd like to read this book called Real Magic.

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 08:37 PM

:)

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 09:17 PM

My recommendation is Postmodern Magic: the art of magic in the information age by Patrick Dunne.

Great book and he also has a blog. It is very simplistic, for beginners, and quite fluid, so not for those set in their ways.

His latest entry has this tidbit:

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You donít need a guru. You can be your own guru. You can take charge of your life. You donít need external validation.

Dude, this stuff works because it happens to be true.

Itís a nice example of postmodern spirituality, actually. The forms and rituals donít matter...

http://pomomagic.wordpress.com/

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:14 PM

:tu:  Be your own guru, I been saying that for years.  I put that site on my favorites bar.  Thanks.

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 02:40 AM

Yes I think I am my own Guru. I learn new things everyday try them out.
Such as herbs potions incantations. They seem to be working very well.
So i take not of what works and what doesn't.

The main thing is gaining and applying new wisdom and also teaching and spreading it to those around me.

I believe we must become the change we want in the world.. then go from there.
So always start with the self i think :)


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 02:54 AM

View PostLostSouls7, on 11 June 2013 - 02:40 AM, said:

Yes I think I am my own Guru. I learn new things everyday try them out.
Such as herbs potions incantations. They seem to be working very well.
So i take not of what works and what doesn't.

The main thing is gaining and applying new wisdom and also teaching and spreading it to those around me.

I believe we must become the change we want in the world.. then go from there.
So always start with the self i think :)

You got it grasshopper, go and be happy. I think of magic as a little hobby, like making airplanes. It is fun and educational. Check out root magic when you get time, I think you will like it if you're into potions and herbs. It is a traditional mountain magic in the US.

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