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NSA Requests ALL Phone Records From Verizon


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#16    Kowalski

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 02:00 PM

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 02:03 PM

This just allows me to wonder even more about the new facility in -Denver....-

*EDIT*
Sorry in Utah

Edited by Jessem, 06 June 2013 - 02:24 PM.

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 02:06 PM

View PostJessem, on 06 June 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

This just allows me to wonder even more about the new facility in Denver....
What new facility in Denver?


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 02:07 PM

When the government does something like this and people start saying 'well if you don't have anything to hide' I want to crawl under a rock but that will probably have a drone flying over it.


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 02:11 PM

I have a notion that most of this listening behavior is quite normal around the world, and in fact very small.  Foreign agents, criminal organizations, tax and market cheats, would-be revolutionaries and terrorists and assassins, and so on are all steadily getting access to sophisticated technologies, and government agencies charged with enforcing the law need to keep up.

It also appears that there has been independent court oversight, something few governments bother with.

I would be the last to say that the States has ideal government, but the reaction I see above, and especially the unfortunate and apparently completely ignorant response to my last message, tell me that there is too much worship of the Constitution and too little clear thought about it.


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 02:14 PM

View PostHilander, on 06 June 2013 - 02:07 PM, said:

When the government does something like this and people start saying 'well if you don't have anything to hide' I want to crawl under a rock but that will probably have a drone flying over it.

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 02:15 PM

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 02:16 PM

View PostHilander, on 06 June 2013 - 02:07 PM, said:

When the government does something like this and people start saying 'well if you don't have anything to hide' I want to crawl under a rock but that will probably have a drone flying over it.

Ugh. I hear you. Freedoms and rights are never an issue until it becomes YOUR issue. Why is it so hard for people to see the bigger picture?

Exploring your own consciousness is the fundamental right of every individual

Locking people in a cage because they choose to exercise that right should be considered a crime against humanity


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 02:21 PM

Sorry, in Utah!

http://www.wired.com..._nsadatacenter/

It's probably done by now... I just saw something on it the other day.

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It's not done just yet "Supposedly"

Edited by Jessem, 06 June 2013 - 02:34 PM.

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 02:44 PM

View PostJessem, on 06 June 2013 - 02:21 PM, said:

Sorry, in Utah!

http://www.wired.com..._nsadatacenter/

It's probably done by now... I just saw something on it the other day.

*EDIT*

It's not done just yet "Supposedly"

"The NSA has become the largest, most covert, and potentially most intrusive intelligence agency ever."

I probably shouldn't say this out loud, but that centre seems like a big bullseye for any domestic terrorist freedom fighter.

Edit -- redefined "domestic terrorist"...

Edited by Dark_Grey, 06 June 2013 - 02:48 PM.

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 02:52 PM

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target acquired ... I repeat ... target confirmed ... and acquired ....




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Posted 06 June 2013 - 03:10 PM

Man is born free, but everywhere he is in chains....-- Rousseau

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 03:15 PM

View PostKowalski, on 06 June 2013 - 03:10 PM, said:

Man is born free, but everywhere he is in chains....-- Rousseau

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Mr Bukowski would like a word ... Lady Kowalski ... if he may ...

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let's invite Charles to the party ...

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Edited by third_eye, 06 June 2013 - 03:47 PM.

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 04:19 PM

View Postthird_eye, on 06 June 2013 - 03:15 PM, said:


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Still one of my faves!

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#30    Kowalski

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 04:31 PM

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So true....





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