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Was the Virgin Queen an imposter in drag?

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#1    Still Waters

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 11:40 AM

The bones of Elizabeth I, Good Queen Bess, lie mingled with those of her sister, Bloody Mary, in a single tomb at Westminster Abbey. But are they really royal remains — or evidence of the greatest conspiracy in English history?

If that is not the skeleton of Elizabeth Tudor, the past four centuries of British history have been founded on a lie.

And according to a controversial new book, the lie began on an autumn morning 470 years ago, when panic swept through a little group of courtiers in a manor house in the Cotswold village of Bisley in Gloucestershire.

http://www.dailymail...anuscripts.html

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 12:35 PM

If this is true, it would be an amazing stunt they pulled off. Question is however how this should be proven. I do not see the English royal familie allowing the opening of her crypt.

Also, where did the supposed grave of the young girl go?


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Posted 08 June 2013 - 12:44 PM

She ruled for forty years and never married? Obviously she must have been a man! (sarcasm)

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 12:49 PM

The worlds first Drag Queen?


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Posted 09 June 2013 - 04:10 AM

Yup the queen was a transsexual lol.i heard of this before


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Posted 09 June 2013 - 09:02 AM

If so then she was the best dressed drag queen ever and true queen.

The article could have did their homework better. They provided images from two movies but forgot to add Quentin Crisp in the role of Queen Elizabeth in the Tilda Swinton vehicle Orlando from 1992.

Tilda Swinton plays Orlando! In the following scene Queen Elizabeth also performs magic.




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Posted 09 June 2013 - 09:09 AM

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 12:40 PM

"I shall have here but one mistress and no master." --- Elizabeth
:nw:

Edward was not a sickly child either, this is a common misconception. Aside from a fever at the age of four, he was a very healthy young boy. It wasn't until the last months of his life, that he became seriously ill. Most likely it was tuberculosis. Henry went to great lengths to make sure his son's manor houses and such were kept extremely clean. Henry could be somewhat of a germaphobe....

There were many, many reasons Elizabeth didn't marry. Most were political, some pyschological.
Also, it was regularly recorded by Elizabeth's doctors that her periods were "erratic" and last time I checked men don't have those so....


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Posted 09 June 2013 - 12:57 PM

View PostKowalski, on 09 June 2013 - 12:40 PM, said:

"I shall have here but one mistress and no master." --- Elizabeth
:nw:

Edward was not a sickly child either, this is a common misconception. Aside from a fever at the age of four, he was a very healthy young boy. It wasn't until the last months of his life, that he became seriously ill. Most likely it was tuberculosis. Henry went to great lengths to make sure his son's manor houses and such were kept extremely clean. Henry could be somewhat of a germaphobe....

There were many, many reasons Elizabeth didn't marry. Most were political, some pyschological.
Also, it was regularly recorded by Elizabeth's doctors that her periods were "erratic" and last time I checked men don't have those so....
Erratic could be a diplomatic way of saying that the good doctors never actually witnessed a period but rather were advised they had taken place - at times that were irregular for most women but possibly convenient for a monarch who wished to choose when they would prefer to have privacy - just putting that out there.

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 01:07 PM

View PostlibstaK, on 09 June 2013 - 12:57 PM, said:

Erratic could be a diplomatic way of saying that the good doctors never actually witnessed a period but rather were advised they had taken place - at times that were irregular for most women but possibly convenient for a monarch who wished to choose when they would prefer to have privacy - just putting that out there.

That's a good possibility and who could blame her? I wouldn't want the entire world to know when it was "my time of the month"....You feel bad enough already! :)

I read somewhere, (most likely Alison Weir since I have every book she ever wrote on the history of the Tudors) that Elizabeth was examined by the doctors, and found capable of producing children. Can't remember where I read that...Now I'm going to try and find it, otherwise it will drive me crazy all day....


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Posted 09 June 2013 - 02:51 PM

Wouldn't chambremaids and ladies-in-waiting attend to the queen's bath, help her get dressed etc? Surely they would have noticed if the queen had the wrong set of organs or lacked others!


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 12:32 AM

Er... beard?


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 02:59 AM

This reminds me of the rumors that Queen Victoria's dad was not of royal blood. The article seems like a promotion for a new book and film. The reference to Dan Brown could be a Freudian slip, alluding to tales that weave fantasy with history. Contradictions of the yarn, found in the historical record, are ignored.

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 03:14 AM

I always felt Elizabeth feared dying in childbirth, and besides did not want to give any of her power up to a husband.  She probably resolved early on to never marry but of course could not say so publicly.


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 06:14 AM

Elizabeth was a woman but a virgin when she died? Who knows?

Why wouldn't she marry? Let's see.

1. Her father murdered her mother because she didn't produce a son.

2. She would have had to marry a fellow Protestant monarch who was prepared to live in England. Her sister Mary tried that with Philip of Spain and we all know how well that went.

3. As already mentioned, dying in childbirth was a real possibility. I don't blame her for avoiding that fate.

4. She was Queen of England. Why would she want to become someone's wife?

5. The longer she put off marrying, the greater a leverage she had inside England with the nobility and outside England with other countries. The prospect of marrying Elizabeth was a great political tool, lost if she said yes.

Have I missed any?





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