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#31    Leonardo

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 10:32 AM

If we consider the biblical figure Jesus as an amalgam, then it's possible some of the sayings (or actions) attributed to Jesus may have come from a woman (the inspiration for Mary Magdalene?), but the patriarchal society of the time would not allow a woman to 'lecture' on such matters, so these were written into the narrative as coming from a male.

However, I do not consider it probable, or even possible, that the Jesus of the bible was, in it's entirety, originally a woman but transformed to a man via church doctrine.

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 12:22 PM

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Maybe the New Testament is/was a way of preserving and passing down more ancient knowledge....

Whether 'Jesus' was a woman or not...or whether 'he' was influenced by Mary Magdalene or not...

This video talks of 'plagiarism'....but perhaps 'preservation' would be a kinder way of putting it...?... :)......dunno

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 03:01 PM

My opinion is that it's not Christian.The Fish,and Cross symbol is not exclusive to Christianity,and it was adopted centuries later.

The 1st Christogram was the Chi Rho http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi_Rho

Look at my profile pic (50-44 BCE Julius Caesar coin).It's a sacred Tropaion which is a Greek/Roman victory symbol of the rays of the Sun (like the Egyptian Ankh). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropaion

The kneeling figure looks like it has a Goatee like a Judean with a what looks like a Skullcap,or possible Pileus hat?
http://en.wikipedia....iki/Pileus_(hat)

There is an object on the ground in front of the kneeling figure (not a foot?), and it migh be a box?

It could be a Taylor shop,or a Brothel?

The Divine symbols could be Sacred Prostitution hence the other sexual artifacts found near the painting?

I do not think it's Christian at all.

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http://m.youtube.com...h?v=mwUZOZN-9dc <-- "Why I Think Jesus Didn't Exist"

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 05:36 PM

It would be empowering if this was the case-  go feminism! however if he really was a she, having 12 male disciples would have been seen as sketchy. I doubt it, but only due to my own beliefs that a women simply would not have had the same effect at communicating with people as a man in those days, its a mans world (unfortunately), Jesus is a males name, he was the son of God, maybe he had a sister? Thats probably more like it


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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:49 PM

View PostTarnibritan, on 15 September 2013 - 05:36 PM, said:

It would be empowering if this was the case-  go feminism! however if he really was a she, having 12 male disciples would have been seen as sketchy. I doubt it, but only due to my own beliefs that a women simply would not have had the same effect at communicating with people as a man in those days, its a mans world (unfortunately), Jesus is a males name, he was the son of God, maybe he had a sister? Thats probably more like it

I have to say, my previous post notwithstanding, I don't care if Jesus was a male. Or female. I'd just like to see Christians actually doing what s/he bid them do: love everyone, help the poor, and not be a judgy, hypocritical douchebag who use his words to further hatred and violence.

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:53 PM

View Postjaylemurph, on 15 September 2013 - 08:49 PM, said:

I have to say, my previous post notwithstanding, I don't care if Jesus was a male. Or female. I'd just like to see Christians actually doing what s/he bid them do: love everyone, help the poor, and not be a judgy, hypocritical douchebag who use his words to further hatred and violence.

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:59 PM

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:59 PM

Gee, since He lived in close quarters with his disciples, and was hated by the Pharisees who were looking for ways to discredit Him, you think someone might have noticed?


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Posted 16 September 2013 - 02:07 PM

I think Jesus man or women got his point across :) he still influences people today. Its an interesting theory but just seems like a historian dishing for any story despite being credible or not. that is only my opinion though.


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Posted 16 September 2013 - 11:30 PM

View PostTarnibritan, on 16 September 2013 - 02:07 PM, said:

I think Jesus man or women got his point across :) he still influences people today. Its an interesting theory but just seems like a historian dishing for any story despite being credible or not. that is only my opinion though.

Yes, but apparently never the sort of people who need influencing to begin with.

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 11:55 PM

Since God has no gender, despite the Old Testament 'scholars' who will come out of the woodwork to 'deny' me, it doesn't matter whether Jesus was a man, woman or child.

An earlier post ("Person. . . " something or something") refers to the meaning of some Christian signs---fish and cross--and gets it wrong. The cross had nothing to do with passing from "here to there." It was the sign of criminal execution.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 01:49 AM

View Postszentgyorgy, on 16 September 2013 - 11:55 PM, said:

Since God has no gender, despite the Old Testament 'scholars' who will come out of the woodwork to 'deny' me, it doesn't matter whether Jesus was a man, woman or child.

An earlier post ("Person. . . " something or something") refers to the meaning of some Christian signs---fish and cross--and gets it wrong. The cross had nothing to do with passing from "here to there." It was the sign of criminal execution.

The cross was a sacred Sun symbol to ancient peoples.To the ancient Greeks,and Romans it was reserved for the Goddess of Victory.The Greeks had Nike,and the Romans had Victoria the winged lady deity who grants victory in battle.The trophy cross symbol was the Tropaion which was empty armor on a stick which was to be filled with the spirit (Latin spiritus meaning air) of victory.Criminals were bound at the base,and never placed on it for it was sacred.The Greeks would leave it erect on the battlefield,andThe Romans used it in triumph ceremonies.Christianity has distorted history,and changed things to make it their own.

Check out the evidence yourself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropaion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechane

http://en.wikipedia....oria_(mythology)




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Posted 17 September 2013 - 12:08 PM

View Postszentgyorgy, on 16 September 2013 - 11:55 PM, said:

Since God has no gender, despite the Old Testament 'scholars' who will come out of the woodwork to 'deny' me...

As an "Old Testament 'scholar'" (although I would never admit to being a 'scholar' or 'authority') I actually agree with you.

God is simply the name/title of a character in a book. Literary characters do not, technically, have gender - as they are imaginary.

This nicely circumvents the fallacy you posted above.

Edited by Leonardo, 17 September 2013 - 12:08 PM.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 12:13 PM

I am no longer Wondering why non christians are mesmerizing with the image of Christ making ridiculous claims!


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 12:31 PM

Galli priests were men that dressed like women in reverence to the Goddess.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galli

It was not until the third century that Jesus's cross of execution became a common symbol of the Christian faith.

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The cross was not exclusive to Christianity.When Christianity took hold it built churches over Pagan temples,and wiped out the false idols/writtings.

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