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#31    Arbenol68

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 12:46 PM

View PostKowalski, on 15 June 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

I don't understand why everyone is getting so bent out of shape about my views and opinions. People are allowed to think differently, and have different opinions.....
If you don't like my views, then that's just too bad. I could care less, and I don't feel the need to defend them.

Disagreeing with you is not getting "bent out of shape". Feel free to not defend your opinion. That's your right. But there's no need to get annoyed when someone counters it.

That's kinda what these boards are all about.


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Posted 15 June 2013 - 12:48 PM

View PostThe Lone Ranger, on 15 June 2013 - 12:32 PM, said:

If you read the discussion all the posts have to do with evolution (except the one where we are wining about correct language on a mysteries forum)
Which is a sure sign you don't know what evolution is. I'll give you a hint, your video in the OP isn't evolution. So like I said, take heed of your own damn advice.


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Posted 15 June 2013 - 12:49 PM

View PostKowalski, on 15 June 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

I don't understand why everyone is getting so bent out of shape about my views and opinions. People are allowed to think differently, and have different opinions.....
If you don't like my views, then that's just too bad. I could care less, and I don't feel the need to defend them.
I don't understand why people complain when corrected, but then I don't give a ****.

Edited by Rlyeh, 15 June 2013 - 12:50 PM.


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Posted 15 June 2013 - 01:10 PM

View PostFrank Merton, on 15 June 2013 - 12:32 PM, said:

"The accountant and the lawyer is coming" tells me, with the singular verb, that the accountant and the lawyer are the same person. The same thing with a "they" and a singular verb.

I have no doubt English literature is full of other uses, but I also think it behooves us to generally but not rigidly follow the rules. Not doing so can interfere with understanding and can cause at least some people to judge us as not worth listening to, and after all that's the only reasonable reason for posting.

I guess you are right.

The main focus here is the message, i don`t think we should be negative toward faulty grammar but rather give advice and be kind. especially when i only ask a question for the reason of that usage of language

View PostRlyeh, on 15 June 2013 - 12:48 PM, said:

Which is a sure sign you don't know what evolution is. I'll give you a hint, your video in the OP isn't evolution. So like I said, take heed of your own damn advice.

Evolution is the change in the inherited characteristics of biological populations over successive generations. Evolutionary processes give rise to diversity at every level of biological organisation, including species, individual organisms and molecules such as DNA and proteins.[
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
I understand what it means. perhaps you can enlighten me with what you think it is, as you seem to be confident to know what it is and i`m wrong.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 01:15 PM

View PostThe Lone Ranger, on 15 June 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

I understand what it means. perhaps you can enlighten me with what you think it is, as you seem to be confident to know what it is and i`m wrong.
Quoting the Wiki doesn't mean you understand it. I've explained why you're wrong, your video in OP is not evolution.
Have you got that? It's like I'm talking to a brick wall.

That idiot Stein doesn't know what evolution is either (apparently it is meant to explain the origin of gravity), so I'm not sure why you're posting his video.

Edited by Rlyeh, 15 June 2013 - 01:16 PM.


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Posted 15 June 2013 - 01:17 PM

View PostRlyeh, on 15 June 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

Quoting the Wiki doesn't mean you understand it. I've explained why you're wrong, your video in OP is not evolution.
Have you got that? It's like I'm talking to a brick wall.

That idiot Stein doesn't know what evolution is either (apparently it is meant to explain the origin of gravity), so I'm not sure why you're posting his video.

I don`t see how saying im wrong explains why im wrong.
Please teach us what evolution is according to you.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 01:25 PM

View PostThe Lone Ranger, on 15 June 2013 - 01:17 PM, said:

I don`t see how saying im wrong explains why im wrong.
Please teach us what evolution is according to you.
By us you mean you and Kowalski? You seem to be the only two posting ignorant videos.

Biological evolution is genetic change in population of organisms.

http://evolution.ber...le/0_0_0/evo_02


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Posted 15 June 2013 - 01:34 PM

View PostRlyeh, on 15 June 2013 - 01:25 PM, said:

By us you mean you and Kowalski? You seem to be the only two posting ignorant videos.

Biological evolution is genetic change in population of organisms.

http://evolution.ber...le/0_0_0/evo_02

Thank you, however it seems that is exactly the text i quoted from wikipedia. It seems like my understanding was correct. Thank you for posting the link

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 09:56 PM

View PostThe Lone Ranger, on 15 June 2013 - 01:17 PM, said:

I don`t see how saying im wrong explains why im wrong.
Please teach us what evolution is according to you.

Hi LR,

There are no end of resources available to learn about evolution. But seeing as you brought up Ben Stein, this is a good site that exposes his disingenuous tactics and outright dishonesty:

http://www.expelledexposed.com/

And it's probably more relevant to some of the things you were saying.

Edited by Arbenol68, 15 June 2013 - 09:57 PM.


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 04:06 AM

View PostArbenol68, on 15 June 2013 - 12:46 PM, said:

Disagreeing with you is not getting "bent out of shape". Feel free to not defend your opinion. That's your right. But there's no need to get annoyed when someone counters it.

That's kinda what these boards are all about.

You are completely free to disagree with me. No problems here with that.....
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I just don't want to be called simple or feeble minded, because I have a different viewpoint is all. I like everyone having a different viewpoint, or opinion on matters. It makes life interesting! And helps me learn new things I couldn't have learned anywhere else...

Edited by Kowalski, 16 June 2013 - 04:07 AM.


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 04:15 AM

You guys will fight over anything.  As for the title, evolution cannot explain mammals.  According to info posted by an evolutionist, the earliest mammals were producing milk.  Not water to keep their eggs wet.  Whih their eggs wouldn't need if they evoved from reptiles.  As I have said, in order fo evolution to be true, in one generation the reptile young which ould take care of itself, to one that needed mom to feed it milk and be generally unable to take care of itself.


One other thing I am having problems with.  Humans are supposed to have a large brain because our ancesters ate meat.  If this is true why don'tsome of the carnivores have a large brain.  They have a brain the size needed to be what they are.

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 05:13 AM

Humans evolved large brains because they ate meat.  Now that's a new one to me.  Which pre-humans ate meat?  It sounds to me like something some creationist invented so they could refute it.


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 05:20 AM

View PostKowalski, on 16 June 2013 - 04:06 AM, said:



You are completely free to disagree with me. No problems here with that.....
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I just don't want to be called simple or feeble minded, because I have a different viewpoint is all. I like everyone having a different viewpoint, or opinion on matters. It makes life interesting! And helps me learn new things I couldn't have learned anywhere else...

As far as I can see, I'm the only poster who has used the words "feeble minded". I hope you didn't think I was referring to you. Take a another look at my post. I was talking about people who would misuse religion or science to justify dangerous ideologies.

Hope that clears it up.


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 05:40 AM

View Postdanielost, on 16 June 2013 - 04:15 AM, said:

You guys will fight over anything.  As for the title, evolution cannot explain mammals.  According to info posted by an evolutionist, the earliest mammals were producing milk.  Not water to keep their eggs wet.  Whih their eggs wouldn't need if they evoved from reptiles.  As I have said, in order fo evolution to be true, in one generation the reptile young which ould take care of itself, to one that needed mom to feed it milk and be generally unable to take care of itself.

The change from reptiles to mammals happened over millions of years, not in one generation. Evolution does not say that a reptile gave birth to a mammal, nor do any evolutionist. Modern species don't evolve into other modern species, and I think this is where you keep getting stuck. You keep thinking of modern reptiles and mammals, not their ancestors.


In the evolutionary view there is a series of intermediate animals connecting reptiles to mammals, every one of them would have been placed in exactly the same species as its immediate neighbors on either side in the long sliding continuum. Every one of the series was the child of its neighbor on one side and the parent of its neighbor on the other.

If we lined up the generations from reptiles to mammals and walk back in time along the line we’ll eventually notice that the ancient mammals we are passing are just a little bit different from the modern mammals we are used to. But the rate of change will be so slow that we would not notice the trend from generation to generation, just as we can’t see the motion of the hour hand of watches, and just as we can’t see a child growing, we can only see later that they have become a teenager, and later still an adult.

View Postdanielost, on 16 June 2013 - 04:15 AM, said:

One other thing I am having problems with.  Humans are supposed to have a large brain because our ancesters ate meat.  If this is true why don'tsome of the carnivores have a large brain.  They have a brain the size needed to be what they are.

Eating meat only helped us by adding another source of nutrients. Meat is not the only reason for larger brains; some recent studies suggest that sociality has played a key role in the evolution of larger brain size among dogs. Detailed analysis of the evolutionary history of carnivores documents at least six separate changes in brain sizes for the group, suggesting that the story of brain size increase is far more complex than previously assumed.


Edited by Odin11, 16 June 2013 - 05:48 AM.

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