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#1    shrooma

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 07:52 PM

America have said they're considering a syrian 'no fly zone' after alleged chemical weapon use by Assad's forces-
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http://uk.reuters.co...E95C16E20130614
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but with Assad claiming it was the rebels who used them, who knows what'll happen?
Russia has already publically stated that it considers the US evidence to be a 'fabrication', and the imposition of a no-fly zone would mean direct military action on behalf of America, but would Russia or Iran allow it to happen....?

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 08:01 PM

Syria is apparently an important client state for Russia.  If the tables were reversed and Russia was talking no-fly zones against Israel then any president from LBJ to GW Bush would be warming up the 6th Fleet and mobilizing airlifts.....  Obama, who knows, but the point is that we probably would not let such pushing of our vital interests go unanswered.  The idea of risking an escalation of that magnitude for people who will cheerfully cut our throats 10 minutes after they win, is madness.

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 08:12 PM

View Postand then, on 14 June 2013 - 08:01 PM, said:

The idea of risking an escalation of that magnitude for people who will cheerfully cut our throats 10 minutes after they win, is madness.
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good point AT!
some islamist rebels have already said they consider america to be 'the enemy', and are working by the 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' proviso just to get their hands on all those lovely rockets, but when it's all over, they'll probably turn out to have the loyalty of an alley cat.....

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 08:12 PM

It's a little to late.  We are now going to allied with and at war with al quida.  Thanks obama, your weakness is hurting the country again.

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 08:29 PM

Well, the wheel will have come full circle, won't it, considering the origins of Al Q in the gallant Mujahideen fighting the Russkies.

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 08:37 PM

Has Syria already finalized the deal of ordering 10 new Russian MiGs?


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 08:45 PM

View PostThe world needs you, on 14 June 2013 - 08:37 PM, said:

Has Syria already finalized the deal of ordering 10 new Russian MiGs?
What do you call Russian MiGs flown by Syrian pilots?  TARGETS

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 11:00 PM

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Any such move would also come up against a potential veto from Assad's ally Russia in the U.N. Security Council. The Kremlin dismissed U.S. evidence of Assad's use of nerve gas.
"I will say frankly that what was presented to us by the Americans does not look convincing," President Vladimir Putin's senior foreign policy advisor Yuri Ushakov said.

From: http://uk.reuters.co...E95C16E20130614

Of course it was fabrication!
It's a bunch of bulls****.....


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 11:02 PM

View PostThe world needs you, on 14 June 2013 - 08:37 PM, said:

Has Syria already finalized the deal of ordering 10 new Russian MiGs?
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I didn't know they'd ordered any LBA, but unless they've ordered a score of Typhoons too, 10 Migs aren't gonna be much of a threat to america's Raptors.....

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 11:09 PM

View PostThe world needs you, on 14 June 2013 - 08:37 PM, said:

*multiple post*

Edited by shrooma, 14 June 2013 - 11:14 PM.

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 11:13 PM

View PostKowalski, on 14 June 2013 - 11:00 PM, said:



From: http://uk.reuters.co...E95C16E20130614

Of course it was fabrication!
It's a bunch of bulls****.....
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I couldn't say one way or the other Kow. but I wouldn't have thought B.O (now THERE'S an unfortunate set of initials!) would be ready to go toe-to-toe with moscow & tehran?
but with public opinion of him plummeting, who knows....?
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Posted 15 June 2013 - 03:38 AM

It wouldn't surprise meif he decided to arm assad's forces.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 03:47 AM

View Postdanielost, on 15 June 2013 - 03:38 AM, said:

It wouldn't surprise me if he decided to arm assad's forces.
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to be honest Dan, i'm suprised anyone from the west is getting involved at all!
if russia gets involved, america gets involved, turkey, israel, iran, it could all end in a s**tstorm of biblical proportions!
very messy indeed.
fingers crossed somebody somewhere starts to see a bit of sense sometime soon.....

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 03:56 AM

View Postshrooma, on 15 June 2013 - 03:47 AM, said:


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to be honest Dan, i'm suprised anyone from the west is getting involved at all!
if russia gets involved, america gets involved, turkey, israel, iran, it could all end in a s**tstorm of biblical proportions!
very messy indeed.
fingers crossed somebody somewhere starts to see a bit of sense sometime soon.....

Don't worry , not now.  Altho this could be the prelude to it.  Something has to happen to destroy the mosque of the black rock.  So the jews can rebuild their temple.  They won't destroy it themselves.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 04:07 AM

if israel (or anyone for that matter!) DID destroy the dome of the rock, the whole of the middle east would be turned to glass & dust before you could say 'four-minute warning!'

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