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Death of Yuri Gagarin demystified 40 years on

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#1    Waspie_Dwarf

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 10:15 PM

Death of Yuri Gagarin demystified 40 years on


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After over 40 years of secrecy, the real cause of death of Soviet cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin, the first human in space, has been made public. Prominent Russian cosmonaut Aleksey Leonov reveals the truth behind the events of that tragic day.

For over 20 years Aleksey Leonov, the first man to conduct a spacewalk in 1965, has been struggling to gain permission to disclose details of what happened to the legendary Yuri Gagarin in March 1968.  

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 10:38 PM

hat's gotta be off to leanov for sticking with it, even after 45yrs!
it's a good mate that'll try & get the truth after that amount of time!

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 03:09 PM

And once again, a very logical explanation to render something unexplained as explained.

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 03:16 PM

Why classify it for so long if that's all it was?


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 03:18 PM

Plane crash, right..... how is this "mysterious"??

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 04:17 PM

View Postnothinglizx2, on 16 June 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

Why classify it for so long if that's all it was?
For him to die young needed it to be a "heroic" death. That his death was the result of another pilots irresponsibility was not good enough, and also embarrassing. So it was better if it was thought he died testing a plane, so dying doing his duty, not result of stupid accident, even if not Gagarin's fault. I wonder how many similar events around the world are kept secret simply because of national pride....


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 04:50 PM

Sounds very much like what happened to the Tu-144 at Paris in '73. They reckon that was caused by a chase plane getting too close and the slipstream causing them to lose control.

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 04:52 PM

Yeah, I recall a tragic accident that happened in my town at that time: Source: http://www.ktvq.com/...ears-ago-today/#_

Just after 5pm on Dec. 18th 1992, a twin-engine Cessna Citation Jet carrying two pilots and six employees of the Western Area Power Administration... crashed on its final approach to Billings Logan International Airport.

The plane hit the Billings School District Two warehouse located in the Magic City's northeast industrial area.
All eight people on board died when the plane exploded on impact.

Miraculously, three School District Two employees were inside the warehouse at the time, but escaped unharmed.
Temperatures were below zero at the time of the crash, complicating the fire fighting effort.

The National Transportation Safety Board later determined the pilot of the Cessna was flying too close to a Boeing 757 cargo plane, and got caught in its wake turbulence.
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From what I remember of the aftermath, rules were changed at Logan to require much more separation between both inbound and outbound planes iinvolving large jets or any aircraf(such as military jets) which could create potential catastrophic turbulence to another, smaller plane if nearby.

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 04:59 PM

View PostWaspie_Dwarf, on 15 June 2013 - 10:15 PM, said:


Death of Yuri Gagarin demystified 40 years on


So a government has actually been keeping something secret? This would probably shock a lot of people.


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 06:50 PM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 16 June 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

Sounds very much like what happened to the Tu-144 at Paris in '73. They reckon that was caused by a chase plane getting too close and the slipstream causing them to lose control.
There is another theory to this crash, and one that is contentious and damaging to reputations of the dead. It does not look so, but there is an aerodynamic similarity between MiG-21 and TU-144. A Test pilot for MiG-21 found there was a problem of instability at negative angles of attack at close to ground level. One MiG-21 was lost to this, the pilot not surving as ejection seats not as good as today. This test pilot believes that cause of crash was pilot error, but of course that is not what authorities wanted to hear. I cannot say if this theory is correct or not, though to me it seems that the mirage being so close must have had a serious effect.


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 08:19 PM

That is not why he died. He fell out of favor with Khruschev. He was grounded for several years and his best friend replaced him in a flight which was known to be dangerous and died as a result. The first time he flew after being grounded he met with a fatal accident during the flight. Reeks of a coverup by the KGB


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 09:29 PM

View Postminera, on 16 June 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

That is not why he died. He fell out of favor with Khruschev. He was grounded for several years and his best friend replaced him in a flight which was known to be dangerous and died as a result. The first time he flew after being grounded he met with a fatal accident during the flight. Reeks of a coverup by the KGB
If so, then you have to fill in a gap between Krushchev being pushed out in 1964 and death of Gagarin in 1968. And he was grounded for some time specificaly to avoid there being an accident. After Gagarin's death, Valentina Tereshkova was permanently grounded so she would not be lost as well. Your post reeks of lack of knowledge and repeating propaganda......

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 09:35 PM

View Postminera, on 16 June 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

That is not why he died. He fell out of favor with Khruschev. He was grounded for several years and his best friend replaced him in a flight which was known to be dangerous and died as a result. The first time he flew after being grounded he met with a fatal accident during the flight. Reeks of a coverup by the KGB
Your evidence for this is conspicuous by it's total absence.

Even glossing over the fact that Khrushchev had been replaced as head of the Soviet Union nearly 4 years before Gagarin's death you are still incorrect.

It is true that Gagarin had not flown much in the intervening time between his flight on Vostok 1 and his death, but there is no mystery in this. For several years after his flight Gagarin had essentially become a PR man of the Soviet Union. As a global hero he travelled around the world meeting world leaders. This did not leave a lot of time for flying.

The mission you talk about was Soyuz 1. Gagarin was most certainly not replaced. Gagarin was selected as the back up for Vladimir Komarov and never intended to fly UNLESS Komarov was grounded for some reason. Komarov believed (correctly as it turned out) that the mission would kill him, but refused to step down because he knew that if he did Gagarin would fly in his place.

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 10:47 PM

At last we now know how Yuri Gagarin died now may he rest in peace a true hero.


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 10:52 PM

View Postmarcos anthony toledo, on 16 June 2013 - 10:47 PM, said:

At last we now know how Yuri Gagarin died now may he rest in peace a true hero.

To be fair, we've always known how he died. It was the root cause of the accident that was hidden,

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