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#31    Render

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 11:57 AM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 17 June 2013 - 11:42 AM, said:

Since you cannot find anything but propagana on your own .
Here's my lie ,in black and white. Just because its not in that article,doesnt mean im not aware of the facts .
People on this forum,always find out the hard way ,theres always proof of what I say ,or I wouldnt say it.


http://www.examiner....gmo-flu-vaccine

And if the reason I posted links to the companies website went over your head ,tsk tsk .
Sad .

Flublok, a new vaccine for influenza, is now available and is the first vaccine ever to contain genetically-modified (GM) proteins derived from insect cells. Flublok is trivalent, which means it contains GM proteins from three different influenza strains. According to clinical data provided in the vaccine's package insert by its manufacturer, the Protein Sciences Corporation (PSC), two study participants actually died during trials of the vaccine.


Can you understand anything apart from blowing your own smoke up your ass???

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Across trials, through 6 months

post vaccination, two deaths were reported, one in a Flublok recipient and
one in a placebo recipient. Both deaths occurred more than 28 days following
vaccination

and neither was
considered vaccine

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and neither was
considered vaccine

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and neither was
considered vaccine

GET OVER YOURSELF

you are not the messiah, you don't see information that others don't
this is all very common knowledge
you didn't just pull the rabit out of the hat

Competent boards go over all the data, they're smarter than you yes. Obviously.

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FluBlOk containing higher amounts of the H1 and B antigens was
100% efficacious in preventing culture positive influenza illness, the FDA
standard measure of efficacy.  This was statistically significant compared to
placebo (p=0.0146).  FluBlOk also significantly reduced the overall occurrence
of CDC-defined ILI compared to placebo, the established measure of vaccine
effectiveness.  FluBlOk was more than 85% efficacious against culture positive
influenza illness in the combined vaccine group (2/301 vs. 7/153 placebo),
which also was statistically significant relative to placebo (p=0.0083).

You most likely don't understand the meaning of statistical significance...so let me break it down for you: It's a good thing.


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While the technology is new to flu vaccine production, it is used to make vaccines that have been approved by the FDA to prevent other infectious diseases.
http://www.fda.gov/N...s/ucm335891.htm
Oh nooo, this technique isn't even new? ? Damn Simbi, seems like you dropped the ball on punctual panicking.

Are you actually gonna read this or just glaze over and say "2 death 2 deaths mimimimimimimi 2 deaths"
So if 10 ppl go visit some waterfalls and 2 ppl die later that month Simbi will be all over it and say "waterfalls caused 2 deaths" TU TU TUM


You better be careful about being so open Simbi....the government is gonna come after you for not keeping this hush hush

Edited by Render, 17 June 2013 - 12:00 PM.


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Posted 17 June 2013 - 12:09 PM

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Across trials, through 6 months post vaccination, two deaths were reported, one in a Flublok recipient and
one in a placebo recipient. Both deaths occurred more than 28 days following vaccination and neither was
considered vaccinerelated. SAEs were reported by 32 Flublok recipients and 35 placebo recipients.
One SAE in a Flublok recipient was assessed as possibly related to the vaccine: pleuropericarditis with
effusions requiring hospitalization and drainage. No specific cause was identified. The patient recovered.

http://www.fda.gov/d...s/UCM336020.pdf

What are they doing I wonder ....

Not related ... then possibly related ... then no specific cause identified ... then ... no problem  ?

Well ... blow me down ... pilgrims ... let's all just mosey on down and get our jabs shall we ?

:no:

uhmmm ... you guys just trot along and go ahead ... I'll sit this one out ...


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Posted 17 June 2013 - 12:17 PM

View Postthird_eye, on 17 June 2013 - 12:09 PM, said:

http://www.fda.gov/d...s/UCM336020.pdf

What are they doing I wonder ....

Not related ... then possibly related ... then no specific cause identified ... then ... no problem  ?

Well ... blow me down ... pilgrims ... let's all just mosey on down and get our jabs shall we ?

:no:

uhmmm ... you guys just trot along and go ahead ... I'll sit this one out ...


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I think you misunderstand there.

The deaths were not considered related.
The SAE was considered as possibly related. SAE stands for Severe Adverse Effect
only 1 had this extreme response of the other 31 SAE, out the even bigger total group of tested people.
And this patient recovered.
So this is great.

I think you fail to realise how rare these great results actually are.

It's very easy to freak out over things you don't understand. Even though all the information is readily available.

Edited by Render, 17 June 2013 - 12:36 PM.


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Posted 17 June 2013 - 12:35 PM

View PostRender, on 17 June 2013 - 12:17 PM, said:

I think you misunderstand there.

The deaths were not considered related.
The SAE was considered as possibly related. SAE stands for Severe Adverse Effect
only 1 had this extreme response of the other 31 SAE, out the even bigger total group of tested people.
And this patient recovered.
So this is great.

I think you fail to realise how rare these great results actually are.

That being said, I know too of other sources that questions the reliability of such reports, especially when it is from sources from only one side of the 'opinions' and 'interests' I have my concerns and I believe with certainty that it is not unfounded.

I understand your optimism ... from your stand point ... but I have so far placed my lot with the TCM and Ayurvedic practices for the most part of my life and from my stand point its a bit far for my fetching. I know for certainty that most of what doesn't work in the ancient practices is because of the lab produced reactions induced by the chemically produced solutions. That's what detoxification means from my world. Clearing the body of such contaminations so the natural remedies can work. I'm not about to fill my body with such toxic elements again after all that. From my stand point of course.

Something just sounds very wrong to me when it is genetic elements that don't belong or found naturally in my body to be introduced no matter what the premise or purpose. Or maybe the more accurate term is unnatural. If I have to die because of that choice ... then at least I'll die knowingly and naturally and satisfied. My choice.

I'm just more comfortable with placing my lot with what works and what has carried the human civilisation for thousands of years I guess.

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 12:41 PM

View Postthird_eye, on 17 June 2013 - 12:35 PM, said:

That being said, I know too of other sources that questions the reliability of such reports, especially when it is from sources from only one side of the 'opinions' and 'interests' I have my concerns and I believe with certainty that it is not unfounded.

I understand your optimism ... from your stand point ... but I have so far placed my lot with the TCM and Ayurvedic practices for the most part of my life and from my stand point its a bit far for my fetching. I know for certainty that most of what doesn't work in the ancient practices is because of the lab produced reactions induced by the chemically produced solutions. That's what detoxification means from my world. Clearing the body of such contaminations so the natural remedies can work. I'm not about to fill my body with such toxic elements again after all that. From my stand point of course.

Something just sounds very wrong to me when it is genetic elements that don't belong or found naturally in my body to be introduced no matter what the premise or purpose. Or maybe the more accurate term is unnatural. If I have to die because of that choice ... then at least I'll die knowingly and naturally and satisfied. My choice.

I'm just more comfortable with placing my lot with what works and what has carried the human civilisation for thousands of years I guess.

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Well, you can have an opinion but to side with conspiracy theorists because you let personal emotions lead your judgement, is just wrong. Keep it to yourself or go talk about on the spiritual board or something.

The reliability of this official FDA report you doubt? Because why? They are out to destroy us and if Simbi wouldn't have stumbled on this readily available information we would all be doomed?
It's ridiculous, a time a place for everything. And this thread is all wrong.

It's not that im wildly optimistic, im just being realistic about it.
Im not pro flu vaccines either, but i understand that a certain part of the population benefits from it. So i can step outside of my own judgement and look at facts and see them for what they are.


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Posted 17 June 2013 - 01:00 PM

View PostRender, on 17 June 2013 - 12:41 PM, said:

Well, you can have an opinion but to side with conspiracy theorists because you let personal emotions lead your judgement, is just wrong. Keep it to yourself or go talk about on the spiritual board or something.

The reliability of this official FDA report you doubt? Because why? They are out to destroy us and if Simbi wouldn't have stumbled on this readily available information we would all be doomed?
It's ridiculous, a time a place for everything. And this thread is all wrong.

It's not that im wildly optimistic, im just being realistic about it.
Im not pro flu vaccines either, but i understand that a certain part of the population benefits from it. So i can step outside of my own judgement and look at facts and see them for what they are.


Side ? Wrong ? my post at #25 or here link

contrary to what you proposed ... not everyone from the Scientific commune is as confident or optimistic as you are in the facts



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JOŚE L.DOMINGO

Laboratory of Toxicology and Environmental Health, School of Medicine,

“Rovira I Virgili” University, San Lorenzo 21,

43201 Reus, Spain



Taking into account that different GMOs include different

genes inserted in different ways, the WHO indicates that indi-

vidual foods and their safety should be assessed in a case-by-case

basis, and that it is not possible to make general statements on the

safety of all GM foods. In general terms, the safety assessment

of GM foods should investigate:


a) toxicity,

B) allergenicity,

c) specific components thought to have nutritional or toxic

properties,

d) stability of the inserted gene,

e) nutritional effects associated with genetic modification, and

f) any unintended effects which could result from the gene

insertion (WHO, 2002)

Although the WHO declares that the GM products that are

currently on the international market have all passed risk as-

sessment conducted by national authorities, in a review on the

scientific literature performed in 2000, we were not able to

find sufficient published information concerning that assessment

(Domingo and G ́omez, 2000). In particular, the lack of published

toxicological studies on adverse health effects was evident. Al-

though a considerable number of commentaries, general news,

and letters to the Editor were published in reputable international

journals, papers about experimental investigations on the safety
of GM foods were surprisingly very scant.



from http://www.biosafety...ftp/domingo.pdf


"And this thread is all wrong."

Why ? Because it provides an avenue to discuss other possibilities or point of views ?


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Posted 17 June 2013 - 01:05 PM

View Postthird_eye, on 17 June 2013 - 01:00 PM, said:

"And this thread is all wrong."

Why ? Because it provides an avenue to discuss other possibilities or point of views ?


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Because, again, you and certain others here, are comparing apples and oranges. Your above posts proves this yet again with these articles you just cherry pick. And you don't even comprehend that you are doing this. But because it satisfies your distrusting bias you use it as some form of proof against this type of vaccine. Which is wrong on so many levels, i can't even begin to explain because you obviously don't understand the basis for it.
It's pointless.

If you were to discuss this professionally, you would have to disclose your bias and ppl would just stop reading there. Because you have already admitted you are not interested in the facts, much like Simbi. You are interested in feeding your bias with a myriad of non related information.

Edited by Render, 17 June 2013 - 01:06 PM.


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Posted 17 June 2013 - 01:25 PM

View PostRender, on 17 June 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

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Because, again, you and certain others here, are comparing apples and oranges. Your above posts proves this yet again with these articles you just cherry pick. And you don't even comprehend that you are doing this. But because it satisfies your distrusting bias you use it as some form of proof against this type of vaccine. Which is wrong on so many levels, i can't even begin to explain because you obviously don't understand the basis for it.
It's pointless.

If you were to discuss this professionally, you would have to disclose your bias and ppl would just stop reading there. Because you have already admitted you are not interested in the facts, much like Simbi. You are interested in feeding your bias with a myriad of non related information.

No I am not a professional ... nor do I agree with everything Simbi proposes ... but I am responsible for my own choices and beliefs and for my own body and well being

You are partially right that I don't understand ... first of all ... the 'WHY'

genetically modified solutions is unnatural ... that to me is enough , that doesn't seems to go down too well with the 'facticists' (no offense its a personal joke)

so what if there is a pandemic ... maybe you should be happy as 'my kind and those that is in agreement' with my point of views will be gone in a week

now wouldn't that be a grand proof of how effective these GMO vaccines will be ?

or what if there is the other kind of pandemic .... ? the kind that wipes out those with these elements in their system ? is that the conspiracy you are talking about ?
I don't believe that ... nor do I believe in specific genetic targeting viruses ... life goes on ... as the saying goes //

I don't trust GMOs ... period ... everything GMO ... to be specific .... I don't care what kind of wonder miracles they promise ... leave the genes alone is my mantra ...

I have had enough of such promises ... trying to outsmart some divine character is like trying to outsmart oneself ... you always win but ends up losing in the end.
I am not particularly keen on religions but I am highly akin to spirituality ... I'd like to keep my spirit and soul uncontaminated ...
and like to believe that I have possession of such.

~cheers

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'

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 01:30 PM

View Postthird_eye, on 17 June 2013 - 01:25 PM, said:

No I am not a professional ... nor do I agree with everything Simbi proposes ... but I am responsible for my own choices and beliefs and for my own body and well being

You are partially right that I don't understand ... first of all ... the 'WHY'

genetically modified solutions is unnatural ... that to me is enough , that doesn't seems to go down too well with the 'facticists' (no offense its a personal joke)

so what if there is a pandemic ... maybe you should be happy as 'my kind and those that is in agreement' with my point of views will be gone in a week

now wouldn't that be a grand proof of how effective these GMO vaccines will be ?

or what if there is the other kind of pandemic .... ? the kind that wipes out those with these elements in their system ? is that the conspiracy you are talking about ?
I don't believe that ... nor do I believe in specific genetic targeting viruses ... life goes on ... as the saying goes //

I don't trust GMOs ... period ... everything GMO ... to be specific .... I don't care what kind of wonder miracles they promise ... leave the genes alone is my mantra ...

I have had enough of such promises ... trying to outsmart some divine character is like trying to outsmart oneself ... you always win but ends up losing in the end.
I am not particularly keen on religions but I am highly akin to spirituality ... I'd like to keep my spirit and soul uncontaminated ...
and like to believe that I have possession of such.

~cheers

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As is your good right.
But it has no place in Scientific oriented threads, just to drag pharma's and researchers through the mud. Acting like they are creating poison.

And you also have to able to respect others that say "i want this vaccine, i will benefit from it". They are owed an unbiased investigation/research. Which is what they are given in this case.


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Posted 17 June 2013 - 01:49 PM

View PostRender, on 17 June 2013 - 01:30 PM, said:

As is your good right.
But it has no place in Scientific oriented threads, just to drag pharma's and researchers through the mud. Acting like they are creating poison.

And you also have to able to respect others that say "i want this vaccine, i will benefit from it". They are owed an unbiased investigation/research. Which is what they are given in this case.

well .. when the tars on the other brush .. it looks the same every which way you look //

the scalpel just cuts along the lines from what the surgeons reads from the xray prints  ... no ?

oriented is right ... it is not specifically a Scientific thread is it ? Some might even go as far as to say GMO has no place in Science ... but that's for another Scientific oriented thread ... :lol:

"They are owed an unbiased investigation/research."

Exactly ... we just define bias with a different kind focus ... that's all ...

As for dragging the big 'pharmas' corporations through the mud ... they're doing that well enough on their own ... mired in it as you've no doubt noticed too .... and I don't believe for one minute its all due to 'lies' and 'tar brushes' from distrustful individuals like me .... if only we had such influence ... ~sigh~

please don't drag the link wars into this ... its been linked to death already, honestly ... even governing bodies are concerned ... that should say enough about the big corporations and their intentions.

"i want this vaccine, i will benefit from it"
by all means ... with blessings even ... as long as they know of the concerns too ... even if unfounded to your perspective ?
isn't that what is an informed decision means ?

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' ... life and death carry on as they always have ~ and always will, only the dreamer is gone ~ behind the flow of imagination, beyond any effort to be still
dancing in the ebb and flow of attention, more present than the breath, I find the origins of my illusions, only the dreamer is gone ~ the dream never ends
'

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 01:58 PM

View Postthird_eye, on 17 June 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:

well .. when the tars on the other brush .. it looks the same every which way you look //

the scalpel just cuts along the lines from what the surgeons reads from the xray prints  ... no ?

oriented is right ... it is not specifically a Scientific thread is it ? Some might even go as far as to say GMO has no place in Science ... but that's for another Scientific oriented thread ... :lol:

"They are owed an unbiased investigation/research."

Exactly ... we just define bias with a different kind focus ... that's all ...

As for dragging the big 'pharmas' corporations through the mud ... they're doing that well enough on their own ... mired in it as you've no doubt noticed too .... and I don't believe for one minute its all due to 'lies' and 'tar brushes' from distrustful individuals like me .... if only we had such influence ... ~sigh~

please don't drag the link wars into this ... its been linked to death already, honestly ... even governing bodies are concerned ... that should say enough about the big corporations and their intentions.

"i want this vaccine, i will benefit from it"
by all means ... with blessings even ... as long as they know of the concerns too ... even if unfounded to your perspective ?
isn't that what is an informed decision means ?

~peace

Again, apples and oranges here.
You want to inform ppl of the risk of eating GMO foods. This is not the same as this vaccine technique, not by a long shot.

You are basically saying something along the lines of "Ppl work with copper, and if copper is ingested it can lead to blindness and organ failure. So ppl shouldn't work with copper, and copper wires should not be used because it makes you blind. "
This is your train of logic, which makes no sense. Which makes all your posts here obsolete.


Ppl who are offered this vaccine, now are able to make an informed decision.Thanks to the extensive testing they reported statiscal significance, what side affects can be, etc .... So ppl aren't in the dark. They know the concerns. That's why these extensive testings are mandatory.  And that's why, for example, if medicines, vaccines etc cause to many SAE or even deaths the FDA, EMA, etc immediately puts these on hold or even throws the whole construct out of the window.


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Posted 17 June 2013 - 02:16 PM

View PostRender, on 17 June 2013 - 01:58 PM, said:

Again, apples and oranges here.
You want to inform ppl of the risk of eating GMO foods. This is not the same as this vaccine technique, not by a long shot.

You are basically saying something along the lines of "Ppl work with copper, and if copper is ingested it can lead to blindness and organ failure. So ppl shouldn't work with copper, and copper wires should not be used because it makes you blind. "
This is your train of logic, which makes no sense. Which makes all your posts here obsolete.


Ppl who are offered this vaccine, now are able to make an informed decision.Thanks to the extensive testing they reported statiscal significance, what side affects can be, etc .... So ppl aren't in the dark. They know the concerns. That's why these extensive testings are mandatory.  And that's why, for example, if medicines, vaccines etc cause to many SAE or even deaths the FDA, EMA, etc immediately puts these on hold or even throws the whole construct out of the window.


I believe my concerns about the GMO vaccines are as follows :

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We’re trying to figure out which genes from the swine influenza virus to incorporate into corn”, stated Hank Harris, a researcher on the project. “If a swine flu virus breaks out, the corn could be shipped to the location to try to vaccinate animals and humans in the area quickly. …there is no need for extensive vaccine purification, which can be an expensive process.”

http://www.thelibert...d-vaccinations/

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FDA approves first GMO flu vaccine containing reprogrammed insect virus

Friday, February 08, 2013 by: Jonathan Benson, staff writer
Tags: flu vaccine, insect virus, GMOs


According to Flublok's package insert, the vaccine is trivalent, which means it contains GM proteins from three different flu strains. The vaccine's manufacturer, Protein Sciences Corporation (PSC), explains that Flublok is produced by extracting cells from the fall armyworm, a type of caterpillar, and genetically altering them to produce large amounts of hemagglutinin, a flu virus protein that enables the flu virus itself to enter the body quickly.

......  FDA also approves flu vaccine containing dog kidney cells
Back in November, the FDA also approved a new flu vaccine known as Flucelvax that is actually made using dog kidney cells. A product of pharmaceutical giant Novartis, Flucelvax also does away with the egg cultures, and can similarly be produced much more rapidly than traditional flu vaccines, which means vaccine companies can have it ready and waiting should the federal government declare a pandemic.

Learn more: http://www.naturalne...l#ixzz2WRiO3qLV


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Two serious concerns have been raised concerning the biosafety of conventional or recombinant vaccines for human and animal uses. The first one is the fact that vaccine strains may persist in the vaccinated recipients and, if the target species is a food-producing animal, later on in the food chain. The second one is that administration of a vaccine may trigger long-term adverse effects in normal or immunodeficient recipients. Project BIO4-CT98-0031 showed that those effects could be discarded by using a recombinant alphavirus, namely Semliki Forest Virus (SFV), in mice, chicken and sheep. The vaccine virus does not persist more than seven days after vaccination.

http://ec.europa.eu/...es/08-intro.htm


"The FDA has hands tied and eyes blind folded" ... I believe it was some US activist that said that ...
I can't remember who now ... and my links are in a mess from neglect ... I gave up on this line of knowing a long time ago ... things haven't changed just because they got some fancy new machines that gives new standards or up the bar on 'safety' issues ... its all cosmetic to me....

Bottom line is I don't want :

~ swine influenza virus to incorporate into corn  on my table to vaccinate me ...

~ reprogrammed insect virus in my immune system

~ a flu virus protein that enables the flu virus itself to enter the body quickly in my body

or
~ dog kidney cells running wild let loose in my body

or anything that might or
~may trigger long-term adverse effects in normal or immunodeficient recipients.

thank you very much // :yes:



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 05:16 PM

View PostArbenol68, on 17 June 2013 - 11:54 AM, said:

Again. Posting misinformation as if it furthers your argument. What part of this do you have trouble understanding? Two people died during the six month period of the trial. Out of 5000 people, why is this so unexpected. Posting the same propaganda adds nothing. Do you have any information on the causes of death? If you do, share. And I think you missed the bit where you were informed (twice) that one of those that died received the placebo.

What's the point of quoting my post when you didn't address anything I said.

Now you've already demonstrated that you have nothing intelligent to contribute, so you might as well go back to hurling insults - you need the practice.

Well, what else do you expect from Simbi?  All you will ever get is misinformation, ignornace of any type of science, quotes taken out of context, and out right lies.  Oh well, it is easy to see which side the truth is on when one side always lies.


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Posted 18 June 2013 - 05:10 PM

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let the lying continue ..... not .... ~ please ~



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dancing in the ebb and flow of attention, more present than the breath, I find the origins of my illusions, only the dreamer is gone ~ the dream never ends
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Posted 02 October 2013 - 08:08 AM

So far they have found that animals fed GMO's had a shortened life span, were more likely to have reproductive problems.. digestive problems.. tumors.. http://www.huffingto..._n_1896115.html


Yet what makes them believe that injecting GMO's straight into your bloodstream will be safer? Remember it is only in the last few years that they have discovered that the 'junk DNA' the scientists ignored that were included in some of these GMO's actually are not junk DNA at all and serve a purpose... What 'junk DNA' are randomly strewn in these vaccines.... Oh and don't forget the damaged DNA that are casualties of these cutting and spicing and recombining  chimera genes. These may take years to fully react.. maybe the outcomes will be in the next generation or maybe it would take days or months... how long will it take for the body's immune system to react to unnaturally created gene recombinations?  Note they aren't reacting to real viruses.. but unstable  man made chimera viruses..

Look at these vaccines that they have created for our food supply.. our dairy... our beef supply . http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/22521286



Here's the process of creating the Gardasil vaccination back in 2000 where it was still being created...  ... http://www.hu.ufsc.b... to prevent.pdf

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In summary, there has been considerable progress

in the development of prophylactic HPV

vaccines in the 8 years since the discovery of

papillomavirus VLPs. Preclinical studies have

produced attractive vaccine candidates and the

recent early phase clinical trials have yielded exceptionally

promising results. However, the lack

of a sexual transmission model in animals makes

it impossible to confidently predict the outcome of

the anticipated efficacy trials. Until efficacy trials

determine that simple systemic vaccination with

purified HPV VLPs induces long-lasting protection

from cervical infection, it seems prudent to

continue preclinical studies of alternative vaccine

candidates that might be more effective, less expensive,

and also more practical for worldwide

use.

I think we may have been the more effective.. less expensive candidates that they were referring to.

Phase II of the human trials were still going on in 2005... and they were still playing around with the vaccine.. http://theoncologist...t/10/7/528.full


Interesting... can you donate blood after a Gardasil Vaccination? http://real-agenda.c...h.5mil9ATB.dpbs





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