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Whitehouse Defending Obama's $100m Trip.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 12:55 AM

wha?    If it's business.. leave the family at home.   Money grows on trees in washington i guess.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 02:49 AM

Pampering Luxurious Obama



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Posted 21 June 2013 - 03:06 AM

View PostYamato, on 21 June 2013 - 02:49 AM, said:

Pampering Luxurious Obama


The opulence is astounding. Walk your own dog, feed your own dog, turn on tv and insert your own DVD and get a cheaper haircut. I could cut his hair. It's a #2. A traveling movie projectionist? Who is he? Madonna? This is not what being president should be about. Leading by example goes a long way towards respect.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 04:11 AM

Not only the White House; the entire media alphabet soup (perhaps with the exception of the much-lambasted Fox) is excusing the over-the-top White House spending. If GWB had behaved like this, treating the office like an open-ended invitation for personal fun, we would not hear the end of it.

But there you go.... that is what a 98% democrat voting media corps gets you.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 04:16 AM

Interesting tradeoff -- we want the President to be President, which to me implies opulent living.  After all, consider who the person is.  We also want the President to be totally above the possibility of being bribed.

Of course taxpayers don't want to pay for it.  Perhaps a private charity could be organized, but of course that would include at least some appearance of corruption.

I think the solution is to give the President a really lavish tax-free salary -- tens of millions a year -- and then have the President pay his or her own way.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 04:44 AM

View PostFrank Merton, on 21 June 2013 - 04:16 AM, said:

Interesting tradeoff -- we want the President to be President, which to me implies opulent living.  After all, consider who the person is.  We also want the President to be totally above the possibility of being bribed.

Of course taxpayers don't want to pay for it.  Perhaps a private charity could be organized, but of course that would include at least some appearance of corruption.

I think the solution is to give the President a really lavish tax-free salary -- tens of millions a year -- and then have the President pay his or her own way.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 04:47 AM

Off the cuff put-downs are not persuasive arguments against someone's view, and are personally insulting.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 04:49 AM

Look how thick the bullet proof glass is!

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 05:27 AM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                     Presidential travel is expensive; the cost of operating Air Force One is about $180,000 per flight hour. President Clinton’s trip to Africa in 1998 cost about $42.8 million. President George W. Bush made two trips to Africa during his two terms, although cost estimates aren’t available for those visits.


Mr. Obama is expected to spend part of the trip emphasizing the importance of global health programs, including HIV/AIDS prevention.

“We have huge interests there,” Mr. Rhodes said. “You’ve got some of the fastest-growing economies in Africa. You’ve got a massively growing youth population. You’ve got key security and counterterrorism issues that we work on with African countries.”

If it cost Clinton 42.8 mil in 1998, it probably cost Mr. Bush way over $100 mil considering he had taken two trips to Africa during
his two year term.  This is 2013, so I guess this estimate would be about right.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 05:30 AM

View PostF3SS, on 17 June 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

Well you've to to be rich or live very cheaply to see it all here. I've been here 33 years and haven't seen much. Our castles are very few and far between but I have been to one when I was a kid, Gillette's Castle http://www.ctriverva...tle_state_park/ and I don't remember it much but I'm sure it pales in comparison to the extraordinarily old castles and old history on your side of the ocean. I've been to Canada once though it was only Niagra falls which is hardly what I'd call visiting another country. Florida/Disneyland a few times. I got the hook up and get in for free when I go. Yes, that is awesome. Otherwise I've been to Las Vegas a couple times, Tennessee and a handful of New England states. A few other places but nothing noteworthy. I'd love to visit Europe and my fiancé especially wants to see Ireland but it's so dang expensive not to mention time consuming if you'd want to enjoy it.
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Posted 21 June 2013 - 05:34 AM

View PostFrank Merton, on 21 June 2013 - 04:47 AM, said:

Off the cuff put-downs are not persuasive arguments against someone's view, and are personally insulting.
It's common here unfortunately.  I've resorted to it myself a time or two.  But you're correct - it doesn't help in real dialogue.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 06:20 AM

They need to have William Shatner hook them up on Priceline, $100,000,000 is insane.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 06:20 AM

What is frustrating is I don't know why he objects to my post, so I am not able to give a reasoned response, not that I'm not aware that what I say sounds "out there," I am serious and don't need knee-jerk remarks that sour everything.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 06:22 AM

View PostRealm, on 21 June 2013 - 06:20 AM, said:

They need to have William Shatner hook them up on Priceline, $100,000,000 is insane.
Yea -- if it were out of the President's salary, things might be approached differently.  This applies to all heads of government.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 07:35 AM

View PostFrank Merton, on 21 June 2013 - 06:20 AM, said:

What is frustrating is I don't know why he objects to my post, so I am not able to give a reasoned response, not that I'm not aware that what I say sounds "out there," I am serious and don't need knee-jerk remarks that sour everything.

I find your solution comical.  This is why I laughed.    We're talking national budget economics and your solution is to give even more central authority to the executive branch?  When does it stop?  It doesn't.  Corruption is everywhere... even in the best imagined GOV ever imagined.

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