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[Merged] Michael Hastings, bomb or accident?


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#61    seeder

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:08 AM

View Posthacktorp, on 10 July 2013 - 04:01 AM, said:

Interesting local news report in San Diego yesterday (see video):

http://www.sandiego6...lusive-20130708


A fascinating tidbit of new information is that the engine from the car was found 150 to 200 feet BEHIND the point where the car came to rest against the tree.  This means it was ejected from the car before hitting the tree, corroborating witness accounts of explosion(s) prior to a crash.

And why is law enforcement so tight-lipped and guarded about the wreckage?  Maybe the phosphorus is still too hot for close inspection.

Interesting link, and I found this bit intriguing

"Another significant detail pointed out by some members of law enforcement, is the intensity of the fire inside the car. It’s highly unusual since gasoline generally doesn’t burn that hot. Reviewing video footage from the scene, the intensity of the fire resembles a “thermite” burn.

No matter how you slice this highly suspicious car accident, a Mercedes is not going to explode into flames without assistance. Car aficionados say fires in new cars happen for three main reasons, “running the engine out of oil, running the engine out of coolant, or a mammoth car mangling accident, that leaves the hot side of the battery to short out against the frame before it reaches the fuse panel.”

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 03:20 PM

View Posthacktorp, on 10 July 2013 - 04:01 AM, said:

Interesting local news report in San Diego yesterday (see video):

http://www.sandiego6...lusive-20130708


A fascinating tidbit of new information is that the engine from the car was found 150 to 200 feet BEHIND the point where the car came to rest against the tree.  This means it was ejected from the car before hitting the tree, corroborating witness accounts of explosion(s) prior to a crash.

And why is law enforcement so tight-lipped and guarded about the wreckage?  Maybe the phosphorus is still too hot for close inspection.

The reporter was wrong.  Plain and simple.

http://metabunk.org/...964/#post-53268

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 04:03 PM

View PostRafterman, on 11 July 2013 - 03:20 PM, said:

The reporter was wrong.  Plain and simple.

http://metabunk.org/...964/#post-53268

Interesting link and photos ...  I have also found another car crash that ejected the engine

Heres the story:

"Head-On Collision - Car Engine Ejected & Flies 100 Feet"

Published on Jan 4, 2013

This afternoon just before 3:00 p.m. emergency crews were dispatched to Brighton Ave. in Modesto, California for reports of a head-on collision car crash. When crews arrived on the scene they found 2 cars that had significant damage with both drivers out of the vehicles. Both cars only had one occupant.

The Police Accident Investigation is still in the early stages but, at this time it appears that a young male driver was driving at a high rate of speed northbound on Brighton Ave. when he lost control of his vehicle, crossed into oncoming traffic, and collided with a car traveling southbound.

When the two cars collided the entire engine from the northbound vehicle was ejected from the car and flew about 100 feet into the middle of a park. Luckily their were no children present and no pedestrians were injured.

The exact distance that the engine flew was not measured by police at the scene. The figure of 100 feet is an estimate.

The driver of the southbound vehicle was transported to an area hospital with minor injuries. The driver of the northbound vehicle was checked out by an ambulance crew on the scene who determined he did not need emergency medical treatment.

http://www.ModestoNews.org




However, the heat of the fire is still a bit of a puzzle

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 04:18 PM

View PostRafterman, on 11 July 2013 - 03:20 PM, said:

The reporter was wrong.  Plain and simple.

http://metabunk.org/...964/#post-53268

I don't think these photographs are of the same spot...while appearing somewhat similar, the differences are notable:

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This looks to be a case where over-zealous debunkers are crafting 'evidence' to suit their purpose.

Not saying the newscasters are infallible, but at least their names and reputations are on the line...unlike Metabunk-sters.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 04:45 PM

View Posthacktorp, on 11 July 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

I don't think these photographs are of the same spot...while appearing somewhat similar, the differences are notable:

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This looks to be a case where over-zealous debunkers are crafting 'evidence' to suit their purpose.

Not saying the newscasters are infallible, but at least their names and reputations are on the line...unlike Metabunk-sters.


well spotted, the inserted image top right of the big piccy, shows grass in front of the kerb/engine... the alleged spot however has no grass in front

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 07:22 PM

If the tranny and engine were indeed behind the car, not in front by direction of travel, then it's no wonder the cops are keeping it under wraps.

For those humans able to read between the lines and connect the dots though, their silence speaks volumes.


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 11:11 AM

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I don't think these photographs are of the same spot...while appearing somewhat similar, the differences are notable:

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This looks to be a case where over-zealous debunkers are crafting 'evidence' to suit their purpose.

Not saying the newscasters are infallible, but at least their names and reputations are on the line...unlike Metabunk-sters.

Did you bring this up at the MB site?  The guy that runs the site will most certainly engage with you if you bring this up in the thread.

I just rechecked the MB thread and I think you are mistaken in your analysis.  The photos are consistent.  The inset photo is simply taken from a different angle and position than the larger photograph - note the position of the lamp pole.

Edited by Rafterman, 12 July 2013 - 11:15 AM.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 11:17 AM

View Postseeder, on 11 July 2013 - 04:45 PM, said:




well spotted, the inserted image top right of the big piccy, shows grass in front of the kerb/engine... the alleged spot however has no grass in front

Look again.  The photos are consistent.  Note the red grate piping over the drain hole.  In the larger photo it is readily visible.  In the inset photo, you can only see the very top of the red pipe.  The photos were simply taken from different angles of elevation.

View PostBabe Ruth, on 11 July 2013 - 07:22 PM, said:

If the tranny and engine were indeed behind the car, not in front by direction of travel, then it's no wonder the cops are keeping it under wraps.

For those humans able to read between the lines and connect the dots though, their silence speaks volumes.

And if it wasn't?

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 12:31 PM

If it wasn't behind the direction of travel, then it would make more sense, and a likely explanation would be that it was thrown forward by the impact.

But it still makes it an unusual accident, all things considered.  If it were an old beat-up car such an event might not mean much, but a new M-B, not so much.


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 01:31 AM

Hasting's body "Cremated against Family's wishes".

Rolling Stone journalist Michael Hastings’ body was cremated against his family’s wishes, destroying potential evidence that could have contradicted the explanation that he died as a result of an accident, according to San Diego 6 reporter Kimberly Dvorak.

Source: Info Wars


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Posted 27 July 2013 - 09:44 PM

OMG thats got to be totally illegal?  When has that ever happened before?

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 12:34 PM

Don't be asking too many questions Seeder....


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Posted 28 July 2013 - 05:40 PM

Surveillance video footage of the crash has now emerged.



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Report including the video: http://laist.com/201...tings_crash.php
Frame by Frame analysis:  http://whowhatwhy.co...rs-a-few-clues/


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Posted 28 July 2013 - 06:26 PM

View PostTiggs, on 28 July 2013 - 05:40 PM, said:

Surveillance video footage of the crash has now emerged.



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Report including the video: http://laist.com/201...tings_crash.php
Frame by Frame analysis:  http://whowhatwhy.co...rs-a-few-clues/

Bloody hell that was a big flash and ball of flame wasnt it? Ive been away a couple of weeks and while I was away I got chatting with some americans in spain one of them said/implied it could have been a drone strike!

While I dont think thats the case, this is becoming more and more of a head scratcher. But, I dont see how anyone can investigate this now and turn up the real eveidence. Ok the articles say the family have employed a private dick, but they dont have access to all areas do they?

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 06:55 PM

I think they hijacked the computer in his car, making it crash.....





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