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#46    TSS

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 08:42 PM

View Postbadeskov, on 30 June 2013 - 05:00 PM, said:

Yes, you are correct. Broadcast signals drown out in back ground noise rather fast. Just a small blurp on this.

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Just read that - very interesting.

So you can collimate radio waves to a specific point (i've been reading the wrong material). When you say a small cone though, I don't understand that, what do you mean?


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Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:34 PM

Thanks Seeder. I'm the dumb leading the blind me....

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:40 PM

E.T wont even come near this Planet !  They have watched the T.V. shows for the last Fifty years ! :tu:

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:39 AM

View PostSky Scanner, on 30 June 2013 - 08:42 PM, said:

Just read that - very interesting.

So you can collimate radio waves to a specific point (i've been reading the wrong material). When you say a small cone though, I don't understand that, what do you mean?

Hi Scanner, old buddy. How are you?

I am not sure I understand what you mean by collimate here. Typically it is a question of where the energy you emit heads to and broadcasting antennas emit in all directions, whereas a parabolas focuses the energy in a given direction. However, all electromagnetic radiation, be it light or radio waves, obeys the inverse square law. Essentially the quanta constituting the signal spreads out and there is nothing one can do about that. From my earlier post:

Loss = ( c/(4*pi*R*f) )^2

Where

C is the speed if light in vacuum
R is the distance the signal has traveled and f is the frequency of the transmitted signal

Here we see how light (given it's higher frequency) disperses less and that is why suggestions are to try lasers to send messages.

Does that make sense?

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:45 AM

I think if we were to put antanni thought the system, they could get a single to the closest star system.  Assuming they could focus that signal.

Radio waves are light waves.

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 02:33 AM

badeskov`s got it bang on Thats why I use my special relative red laser light transmitter and for sure watch for passing aircraft,A few unlucky sod`s here in Texas have been put in jail,and a heavy fine set for them to pay! But ITs a great way to talk to our E.T friends out there,where ever that is?
Just gotta keep on ,keeping on with my made up transmissions to the stars !
Mayb I will get a reply,maybe not? But THe Little beam heading off into Infinity seems quite the great Idea ! :tu:

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 02:36 AM

View Postbadeskov, on 01 July 2013 - 01:39 AM, said:

Hi Scanner, old buddy. How are you?

I am not sure I understand what you mean by collimate here. Typically it is a question of where the energy you emit heads to and broadcasting antennas emit in all directions, whereas a parabolas focuses the energy in a given direction. However, all electromagnetic radiation, be it light or radio waves, obeys the inverse square law. Essentially the quanta constituting the signal spreads out and there is nothing one can do about that. From my earlier post:

Loss = ( c/(4*pi*R*f) )^2

Where

C is the speed if light in vacuum
R is the distance the signal has traveled and f is the frequency of the transmitted signal

Here we see how light (given it's higher frequency) disperses less and that is why suggestions are to try lasers to send messages.

Does that make sense?

Cheers,
Badeskov

Hi Bad, yeah I good thanks mate - just ticking along as you do! Hope life's treating you good?

Yes that makes perfect sense. I've only dealt (vaguely) with receiving signals (radio scopes), so never really looked much into the aspect of sending a signal and how that all works. I understood that antennas emit in all directions (so I obviously wasn't reading wrong when saying they can't emit in a signal direction, as I thought I had).

My confusion came when you mentioned 'small cone', it's not a term I had heard....however, google is my friend so i'm reading some material now!

When I said collimate, it was just a different way of referring to align, as in sending to a fixed point without any scatter....which as I thought can't be done re: universal square law link. I had no idea they were looking down the route of lasers though..that's given me something else to look at.

Thanks for the reply :tu:


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 04:18 AM

No, no and no

I, as a former enthusiast of the likes of project camelot etc.. would listen to good old bob dean ramble on about how humanity would be in chaos if they were to find out aliens created humanity or aliens visited earth.

Erm no they wouldnt, even the most hardline skeptics ive spoken to have told me if they found out today in living colour that aliens are or were among us... they would say `okay cool`.... they would not mass panic or whatever (only the religious crazies would),  christians would embrace the aliens -- vatican have already said its okay if life is out there as they are all gods children!  just the muslims would go a bit psycho... but they can be dealt with a few nukes..

Point is..   this whole `slow disclosure ` theory really is kind of baloney..  for the point being the only kind of proof that will be clear to humanity of alien existence is a craft landing on the whitehouse lawn nothing more nothing less.

That isnt something which needs drip drip disclosure.. thats something which will or will not happen within the blink of an eye.

But to get back on point, the vast majority of humanity, even the skeptics..  are fully able to deal with an et existance reality if it was proven without doubt





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