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#16    seeder

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 06:02 PM

View Postzoser, on 28 June 2013 - 06:00 PM, said:

Slight problem.

The dating of PP, Machu Pichu and most of the ancient South American sites are all heavily disputed.



Only by the AA crowd matey and well you know it....and the AA teams are not professional long schooled and experienced archaeologists, now are they? Not one of them

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 06:09 PM

View Postseeder, on 28 June 2013 - 06:02 PM, said:

Only by the AA crowd matey and well you know it....and the AA teams are not professional long schooled and experienced archaeologists, now are they? Not one of them

Not at all.

The dating of these sites was done only to fit the convenience of an assumed chronology with pitifully little supporting evidence.

On the other hand lots of evidence points to the idea that these sites are far more ancient.  Of course that needs research, reasoning, and a deeper sense of perception.  None of which are to be found in the mainstream unfortunately.

I don't say or claim these things to wind up the skeptics.  I truly firmly believe what I say.  I stand not alone on the issue.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 06:13 PM

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Only by the AA crowd matey and well you know it....and the AA teams are not professional long schooled and experienced archaeologists, now are they? Not one of them

Just one example which immediately puts you and the mainstream on shaky ground.

PP was built some time between 500 and 600 AD was it?   Well that means it must have been the work of the Aymara as the only indigenous people known in that area at the time.

Can it be proved that they were ever associated with master precision masonry skills using hard stone?

Such is the folly of the claims.  Yet all seem happy to buy into it.

Not me.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 07:40 PM

View Postzoser, on 28 June 2013 - 06:13 PM, said:

Just one example which immediately puts you and the mainstream on shaky ground.

PP was built some time between 500 and 600 AD was it?   Well that means it must have been the work of the Aymara as the only indigenous people known in that area at the time.

Can it be proved that they were ever associated with master precision masonry skills using hard stone?

Such is the folly of the claims.  Yet all seem happy to buy into it.

Not me.
how old do you figure they are than? and a little question who would you buy a burger from chef ramsey? or a bum that used to flip burgers in mc d's back in the 60's? same type one just has the more accurate quality

Edited by kannin, 28 June 2013 - 07:43 PM.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 07:55 PM

View Postkannin, on 28 June 2013 - 07:40 PM, said:

how old do you figure they are than? and a little question who would you buy a burger from chef ramsey? or a bum that used to flip burgers in mc d's back in the 60's? same type one just has the more accurate quality

Lol, spose that would depend on if the bum has been flipping since the 60's- he might have more experience. Then again, I'm not a huge Ramsey fan, he was nice enough out of the kitchen but blech, he is so not all that. I think a lot of celebrity chefs are more hype than their talent is worth.


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Posted 28 June 2013 - 07:56 PM

View Postkannin, on 28 June 2013 - 07:40 PM, said:

how old do you figure they are than? and a little question who would you buy a burger from chef ramsey? or a bum that used to flip burgers in mc d's back in the 60's? same type one just has the more accurate quality

He has a fixation, (zoser) with the AA vids and all the 'facts' within them, haha. that says we should burn the text books. But, actually, he is totally wrong on all counts, and  he has always been wrong. He tries so hard to brainwash others with the AA stories that he believes without question... but he can nver rustle up facts. Like the following reply I was going to make to him, but I will put it here now:



Shaky ground eh zoser?   Look - I dont give a fig who built PP,  native Indians, native cowboys, or native belly dancers, I just dont care. But when it comes to solid facts...


And, for the benefit of other readers - heres the FACTS:

"Determining the age of the Pumapunku complex has been a focus of researchers since the discovery of the Tiwanaku site. As noted by Andean specialist, Binghamton University Anthropology professor W. H. Isbell, a radiocarbon date was obtained by Vranich from organic material from lowermost and oldest layer of mound-fill forming the Pumapunku.

This layer was deposited during the first of three construction epochs and dates the initial construction of the Pumapunku to AD 536–600 (1510 ±25 B.P. C14, calibrated date). Since the radiocarbon date came from the lowermost and oldest layer of mound-fill underlying the andesite and sandstone stonework, the stonework must have been constructed sometime after AD 536–600.


The excavation trenches of Vranich show that the clay, sand, and gravel fill of the Pumapunku complex lie directly on the sterile middle Pleistocene sediments. These excavation trenches also demonstrated the lack of any pre-Andean Middle Horizon cultural deposits within the area of the Tiwanaku Site adjacent to the Pumapunku complex.

http://en.wikipedia....i/Pumapunku#Age

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 08:00 PM

View Postrashore, on 28 June 2013 - 07:55 PM, said:

Lol, spose that would depend on if the bum has been flipping since the 60's- he might have more experience. Then again, I'm not a huge Ramsey fan, he was nice enough out of the kitchen but blech, he is so not all that. I think a lot of celebrity chefs are more hype than their talent is worth.

second thoughts, deleting due to poss libel

Edited by seeder, 28 June 2013 - 08:02 PM.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 08:27 PM

View Postrashore, on 28 June 2013 - 07:55 PM, said:

Lol, spose that would depend on if the bum has been flipping since the 60's- he might have more experience. Then again, I'm not a huge Ramsey fan, he was nice enough out of the kitchen but blech, he is so not all that. I think a lot of celebrity chefs are more hype than their talent is worth.
lol just using an example heres a better one having a certified company install a play gym in your backyard, or the drunk guy that says he can make a play gym out of used gum and spruce twigs, see the diff in quality? :P SHIZZAH!

View Postseeder, on 28 June 2013 - 07:56 PM, said:

He has a fixation, (zoser) with the AA vids and all the 'facts' within them, haha. that says we should burn the text books. But, actually, he is totally wrong on all counts, and  he has always been wrong. He tries so hard to brainwash others with the AA stories that he believes without question... but he can nver rustle up facts. Like the following reply I was going to make to him, but I will put it here now:



Shaky ground eh zoser?   Look - I dont give a fig who built PP,  native Indians, native cowboys, or native belly dancers, I just dont care. But when it comes to solid facts...


And, for the benefit of other readers - heres the FACTS:

you would make an excellent thread smack down tag partner! u cream them ill stand around and look purdy!"Determining the age of the Pumapunku complex has been a focus of researchers since the discovery of the Tiwanaku site. As noted by Andean specialist, Binghamton University Anthropology professor W. H. Isbell, a radiocarbon date was obtained by Vranich from organic material from lowermost and oldest layer of mound-fill forming the Pumapunku.

This layer was deposited during the first of three construction epochs and dates the initial construction of the Pumapunku to AD 536–600 (1510 ±25 B.P. C14, calibrated date). Since the radiocarbon date came from the lowermost and oldest layer of mound-fill underlying the andesite and sandstone stonework, the stonework must have been constructed sometime after AD 536–600.


The excavation trenches of Vranich show that the clay, sand, and gravel fill of the Pumapunku complex lie directly on the sterile middle Pleistocene sediments. These excavation trenches also demonstrated the lack of any pre-Andean Middle Horizon cultural deposits within the area of the Tiwanaku Site adjacent to the Pumapunku complex.

http://en.wikipedia....i/Pumapunku#Age

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 08:28 PM

seeder you would make an excellent thread smakcdown partner! you cream them ill stand around and look purdy!

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 08:32 PM

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how old do you figure they are than? and a little question who would you buy a burger from chef ramsey? or a bum that used to flip burgers in mc d's back in the 60's? same type one just has the more accurate quality

My challenge to you will be simple.

If you are convinced that the Aymara Indians (that's what they were; indians) performed highly accurate modular stonework in andesite then please provide the evidence.  It must be available yes?

Some convincing evidence of tools used would be nice.

I'll wait.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 08:32 PM

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seeder you would make an excellent thread smakcdown partner! you cream them ill stand around and look purdy!

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 08:34 PM

View Postzoser, on 28 June 2013 - 08:32 PM, said:

My challenge to you will be simple.

If you are convinced that the Aymara Indians (that's what they were; indians) performed highly accurate modular stonework in andesite then please provide the evidence.  It must be available yes?

Some convincing evidence of tools used would be nice.

I'll wait.

This thread is about a tomb zoser, its not a sly chance for you to begin talking about stuff that you had threads closed down for, now is it? Maybe you should start your own thread?

Oh wait, no I know, they get closed down almost immediately dont they?

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 08:35 PM

View Postkannin, on 28 June 2013 - 08:27 PM, said:

lol just using an example heres a better one having a certified company install a play gym in your backyard, or the drunk guy that says he can make a play gym out of used gum and spruce twigs, see the diff in quality? :P SHIZZAH!

No evidence there.

Just a claim; nothing more.

Evidence needed would be folklore testimony for example.   Do the Aymara actually claim to have created the PP site?  Evidence suggests not.  Where are the tools?  What do the Aymara say that PP actually was?  

They should know.  The folkore should have survived the relatively short time frame.  

Good luck with that.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 08:36 PM

View Postseeder, on 28 June 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:

This thread is about a tomb zoser, its not a sly chance for you to begin talking about stuff that you had threads closed down for, now is it? Maybe you should start your own thread?

Oh wait, no I know, they get closed down almost immediately dont they?

The OP started off with a premise regarding a comparison of time frames.

That premise is faulty.  You alerted me to the thread seeder.

BTW

Plenty of opportunities to expose the mainstream on this forum.  No sly opportunities needed.

For anyone with an ounce of perception it's a turkey shoot.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 08:49 PM

man, zoser, what does them being "indians" have to do with their ability to work stone?

whatever, the actual article is quite remarkable. i'm very curious to see more of what comes out of it.






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