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Meet the Breatharian Who Lives on Energy

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#76    Beany

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 03:26 PM

View PostTimonthy, on 30 June 2013 - 12:46 PM, said:

'Man claims to live on sunlight and air'

1. Man has no knowledge of biology.

2. Man is full of crap.

3. Hopefully man is trying to make money and doesn't really believe this because then I feel sad for man.

Well, if someone is full of crap we know there's food involved.

Edited by Beany, 04 July 2013 - 03:44 PM.


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Posted 04 July 2013 - 04:30 PM

OK, let me just ask this: Who is more likely to swallow this fairy tale -- a religionist, or an atheist?

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 03:21 AM

View PostRolci, on 30 June 2013 - 01:06 PM, said:

What is surprising is the apparent lack of documentaries on the subject. If people were to watch for example In the Beginning there was Light, I'm sure some people would change their minds about breatharianism, or at least become better informed on the subject rather that cry "bullsh!t" or "impossible" straight away. The trick is to find the English subtitles, which is also not impossible, if you're good at using the net. It's like saying with the double slit experiment that it's impossible for the electron to go through both holes and neither at the same time. We should've learnt by now that the universe doesn't know impossible, it's our limited and rigid intellects that,once fixed  in a paradigm, find it hard to be open to new possibilities. Yes, it  was hard for physicists to come to terms with particles being waves at the same time. Common sense says: come on, so what is it then, wave or particle? Can't be both. Oh really. The universe says it can. You've got a problem with that? Guess what? The universe doesn't care. You sort your paradigm problems out and find a brave new world out there, or stay in your paradigm and keep shouting impossible.

Our minds seem to resist change. We would like to be comfortable in a world that is simple. We would like to know that time is absolute. When some scientists proposed as a solution to some disturbing observations that time is relative, they were called nutcases, of course. Guess it's human nature. There will always be the people that will investigate a phenomenon with open mind, and there will be those useless members of society that curl up in their paradigm, close their eyes and keep saying "impossible" like a mantra, not contributing much to progress. If the world was made up of such people only, we would still be living in the dark ages with a heliocentric flat-earth world view. Since everything else is impossible, right? Just because at this moment in time we do not have the knowledge to understand its workings. We've been told about the existence and properties of prana for thousands of years. The knowledge might have survived from a previous advanced civilization, like Atlantis. Yes, the subject has been marginalized in cartoons etc. obviously for a reason, not dissimilar to the UFO issue, where you find official CIA documents giving directions to Disney to marginalize the UFO subject, which they did - little green men.

The existence of Atlantis, with a wealth of details, has been referred to by Edgar Cayce and several others, and then we have a library of channelled materials also talking about Atlantis in great details, as well as the workings of prana, the universal omnipresent energy, the one pyramids were built to focus in the queen's chambers where they performed initiations. Well it's a large subjects, but there is no real audience on these forums. The open-minded people  have already started doing their homework, the rest have already made their minds up that it's all impossible. It's funny though, once it has been scientifically understood, these nay-sayers will be the first ones to start cutting their food bill, of course they would not do a cleansing of the body for spiritual reasons. Like those who are saying zero-point energy is BS will be all to happy to take the devices for free once on the market with the zero-point field being scientifically established. Indeed, hypocrisy knows no bounds.
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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:39 AM

View Postrustygh, on 05 July 2013 - 03:21 AM, said:

dude, you should write fiction.
dude does.

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 04:33 AM

View PostZaphod222, on 04 July 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

OK, let me just ask this: Who is more likely to swallow this fairy tale -- a religionist, or an atheist?

That's a pretty contrived question. It must be quite validating to know you're less gullible than all those "religionists". I wonder if arrogence is a form of dogma?

"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing - they believe in anything".

Perhaps you do not know this existential hell? I would not wish it on my worst enemy.

You know, sarcasm is a fasinating thing. To communicate properly someone has to be "in on the joke". In the absense of information, and in the absense of an appropriate social que, what remains but a statement of fact? I have known people who practice this as a form of scorn, as if the product, an assersion of gullibility, is anything but an assertion of superiority.

What if I said "religion is a cultural practice", for example. Would you laugh? Cause if you don't, it means I'm better than you.

Sigh*

Nothing like a good ole fasion rampage.



Edited by TravelerZero, 06 July 2013 - 05:04 AM.


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Posted 06 July 2013 - 06:26 AM

View PostTravelerZero, on 06 July 2013 - 04:33 AM, said:

"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing - they believe in anything".
Strangely enough I've come across very few atheists who "believe in anything".


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Posted 06 July 2013 - 09:40 PM

People have been on hunger strike for over 100 days, and it's basic human biology that you can train your body as well as bodily system. You can alter how it withstands different conditions. If you bother, and apply yourself (source: Breaking Bad, Walther White). Mind and body are linked, this is established by placebo. Or power of belief, power that's as real as me writing this.

Bones should break when you hit them with bricks or hard sticks hard enough. Yet, you can train your bones to break those objects instead. It should be impossible if you did not train yourself, or very unlikely unless you can reach a state where you negate the fatal amount of impact even if you take it. If you dont know how impossible is made possible, dont expect to understand the impossible.

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 11:24 PM

much respect to those people, especially hunger strikers, and yes, the human body is capable of some pretty remarkable things... but the breatharian claim is that people can survive without food, at all, for their entire lives. and the evidence does not come close to supporting that. people who come out of hunger strikes do not come out healthy, they come out badly weakened. the very reason it's a succesful tactic is due to the fact that the people doing it are putting their own lives at risks. it pushes the body to the brink, which is pretty much the opposite of what breatharians claim their regimin will do.

i've never lost my sense of wonder at the amazing things people can do with their bodies, but i also know that these things you mentioned are physically explicable. breatharianism is not.


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 01:22 AM

View PostRlyeh, on 06 July 2013 - 06:26 AM, said:

Strangely enough I've come across very few atheists who "believe in anything".

That is strange. I have yet to come across ANY individual who will "believe in anything"! That would be just as unlikely as finding an individual that believe's in nothing!


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 04:02 AM

Funny how in the picture he has a glass and 2 cups in front of him, and a spoon. He eats a daily communion of bread and wine, and even if he drank a few cups of coffee with cream and sugar he could get all the calories he needs. So much for not eating as claimed.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 10:16 AM

View PostTravelerZero, on 07 July 2013 - 01:22 AM, said:

That is strange. I have yet to come across ANY individual who will "believe in anything"!

Even stranger, when *you* were the one to use that quote and are now disputing it...  Enjoy your argument in the mirror.

(Oh, and you're sooo right about sarcasm... :D)

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 05:39 AM

View PostChrlzs, on 07 July 2013 - 10:16 AM, said:

Even stranger, when *you* were the one to use that quote and are now disputing it...  Enjoy your argument in the mirror.

(Oh, and you're sooo right about sarcasm... :D)

Just to be clear, here is my understanding of the quote in question: people will believe a surprising amount of what they are presented with. Sometimes, they even take these things literally (shocking). The quote is both tragic and tounge and cheek. As if not believing in god implies one believes in nothing!

To me, it is actually a statement about how deep the roots of religion go, and a possible allusion to the fact that extreme behavior found in the highly religious is not merely a product of religion, but an expression of human nature.

For me it is also tragic; to see how tightly some people cling to the first thing they lay eyes on when they "lose their religion", and on a broader scale, how suseptible the human mind is to suggestion.

Neither the above nor the original post was in any way an attack on atheisim itself, and I cannot understand how anyone would interpret it that way, hence my incredulous reaction. But then again, I guess this is all pretty pointless, as the condition of being a Zealot is not confined to a traditionally religious form. That and any rational person knows you can't argue with faith :tu: .

My retort was not a dispute. Here, interpreting the above requires at least some idea of what sarcasm is, a diserning eye, and a brain, but I suppose one cannot blame a talking bird. You have made only one correct statement: I am "sooo right about sarcasm". How tiresome.


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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:09 PM

Oh, the semantics...

View PostTravelerZero, on 08 July 2013 - 05:39 AM, said:

Just to be clear, here is my understanding
I'm glad you have clarified that - it is YOUR understanding...

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of the quote in question: people will believe a surprising amount of what they are presented with.
Well, it does say 'anything'.  So I think it's a fair complaint that it is an unwarranted exaggeration.  Me, I read things literally, and your understanding is an elaboration that was made necessary by the silliness (some might say.. irrelevance..) of your own quote.  Perhaps next time you could add context - maybe this quote comes from a scenario that makes more sense that just chucking it onto a forum...

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Sometimes, they even take these things literally (shocking).
Is there some need to state the bleeding obvious, on a forum that attracts both the gullible and the informed (and the 'arrogent' {sic})?

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The quote is both tragic and tounge {sic} and cheek.
You mean tongue in cheek?  You really should practice that quoting..  And as for it being tragic or tongue in cheek.. I think it's neither and adds nothing useful to the topic.

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To me, it is.. a possible allusion to .. etc
Yes, it is indeed your understanding of it...

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For me it is also tragic; to see how tightly some people cling to the first thing they lay eyes on when they "lose their religion", and on a broader scale, how suseptible the human mind is to suggestion.
For heaven's sake (sarcasm intended), start another thread on whatever point you are trying (and failing) to make..

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Neither the above nor the original post was in any way an attack on atheisim itself, and I cannot understand how anyone would interpret it that way
Who did?  Zaphod just asked a question, which you have now turned into a huge strawman.

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hence my incredulous reaction.
Incredulous?  You are incredibly easily 'creduled'... :D

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I guess this is all pretty pointless..
Correct.

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Here, interpreting the above requires at least some idea of what sarcasm is, a diserning {sic} eye, and a brain, but I suppose one cannot blame a talking bird.
A 'talking bird'?  Please elaborate..

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You have made only one correct statement: I am "sooo right about sarcasm". How tiresome.
Then perhaps you should not respond to such unworthy posts, or at least make some small effort to be .. ontopic.  You could start now - do you believe this 'breatharian' is setting a good example?  Is he telling the truth?

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 04:19 AM

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 04:48 AM

There is the story of the one doctor in India who confirmed some Breatharians not eating anything and yet being fine. OK. So, now that testing needs to be repeated by 10 other researchers in 4 or 5 other countries.

Facts are reproducable. And nothing is a fact till it has been reproduced.

Edited by DieChecker, 09 July 2013 - 04:48 AM.

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