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6-Year-Old Dies After Accidental Shooting

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#16    Jeffertonturner

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 04:00 PM

View Postaztek, on 02 July 2013 - 03:57 PM, said:



so what in your opinion would prevent this particular death from happening??? not that i don't agree on tragedy of child deaths.
I really don't have an answer. Awareness I suppose, which is why this type of story should be posted.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 04:01 PM

Parents need to be aware other people's houses are not always childproof. Medications, cleaners, tools and whatnot are easily accessible in our house and children are not allowed unless the parents keep them in sight at all times. If they can't do that we all have to go outside or they have to leave. No discussion.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 04:06 PM

View Postaztek, on 02 July 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

sure it does, you are smart woman, i'm surpriced you can't see it.


All I could see was a tragic story.. All that entered my head was - Those poor kids.. What is life going to be like now for that poor 4 year old kid?

Can you imagine growing up knowing you accidentally shot your sibling to death?  That would be traumatising..

Sorry aztek, but that was the only thing that entered my mind at the time when reading the article..

I know that each time a tragic story like that is posted, you will get the anti and pro gunners in...But I try sometimes to push my pro gun thoughts to one side when the story involves kids and tragic ...

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 04:09 PM

Still Waters  ( Person who posted the story )  usually just posts news articles at random..She will post anything up to 10 articles or more a day.. She has no agenda..Well other than posting news..

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 04:09 PM

View PostJeffertonturner, on 02 July 2013 - 04:00 PM, said:

I really don't have an answer. Awareness I suppose, which is why this type of story should be posted.
yep, too bad grandpas don't come here to increase their awareness.

do you think ppl are not aware of it already?? or don't know it is not good idea to drive drunk? or leave prescription pills open easy accesable to kids?? i can assure you they are. but they still do it. why??? how do we fix that??

why do ppl smoke under no smoking sign? why do they leave dog crap with signs "curb your dog" all over the places? ...why ppl turn right under "no turns" sign???
is not a gun, or car, or hammer problem, it is human problem, and we wont move an inch if we keep implementing mesures in a wrong place, which we do.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 04:12 PM

View PostJeffertonturner, on 02 July 2013 - 03:53 PM, said:

Even one child dying needlessly is too many. Just my opinion though.
I understand that many states are cracking down on negligence by adults that causes the deaths of children with firearms - just as penalties are becoming MUCH more severe for DUI related fatalities - in both cases it is a change for the better imo.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 04:18 PM

View Postand then, on 02 July 2013 - 04:12 PM, said:

I understand that many states are cracking down on negligence by adults that causes the deaths of children with firearms - just as penalties are becoming MUCH more severe for DUI related fatalities - in both cases it is a change for the better imo.
i look at the numbers, and both dui and non dui fatalities are down year by year, that makes me think harsher panaltys are not the reason, safer cars are. you are a lot likely to die in a 1990 car than in 2010. t bone crashes used to be almost certain death, due to head injury, with developmemnt of side curtain airbags you are likely to survive, drunk or not.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 04:36 PM

This is a sad story....
Why don't these morons keep their guns locked up?! :no:
They make the rest of us responsible gun owners look bad...


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 05:14 PM

View Postaztek, on 02 July 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

i look at the numbers, and both dui and non dui fatalities are down year by year, that makes me think harsher panaltys are not the reason, safer cars are. you are a lot likely to die in a 1990 car than in 2010. t bone crashes used to be almost certain death, due to head injury, with developmemnt of side curtain airbags you are likely to survive, drunk or not.
I don't dispute the numbers but my point is that the negligence is becoming much less acceptable in today's world.  In both instances the death and mayhem are preventable and occur due to carelessness that needs to be held accountable.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 05:17 PM

Not surprising this happened in Kentucky.

The states with the most gun fanatics will have the most "accidents".

It is their choice, that is why they have the most murders too. Maybe they will learn that gun reform is in their and their children's favor.

Edited by The world needs you, 02 July 2013 - 05:18 PM.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 05:26 PM

no they don't, stop lying.  all you do is spread lies, and anyone googling your claims will see you are full of crap. acually Louisiana leads in murders

how does it feel trolling???


but don't stop. the more lies and nonsencde you spread, the more you turn ppl away from your side of the argument.  unless you are pro gun and doing it on purpose, destroying enemy camp from inside, if that is the case, you're doing wonderfull job.

Edited by aztek, 02 July 2013 - 05:26 PM.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 05:27 PM

View PostThe world needs you, on 02 July 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

Not surprising this happened in Kentucky.

The states with the most gun fanatics will have the most "accidents".

It is their choice, that is why they have the most murders too. Maybe they will learn that gun reform is in their and their children's favor.

Don't lecture other people on what's in the "best interests" of their children. You don't have that right.
Why bring up gun reform anyway? Yes, the gun should have been locked up, but why do you feel the need to lecture people on how they should live....


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 05:35 PM

Louisiana has the highest murder rate? That too is part of the South, so again, not surprising.

in 1995 the South had the highest murder rate.

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1995-02-02 04:00:00 PDT Washington -- The nation's Southern states lead the country in the rate of homicide as the United States remains the most killing-prone nation in the industrialized world, a new study shows.

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In 2007 nothing had changed.

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According to the F.B.I.'s latest crime report released on September 15, the South is the only region in the country that experienced a rise in its murder rate in 2007. The FBI reported that the murder rate in the country declined to 5.6 murders per 100,000 people in 2007 from 5.7 in 2006, and the rate declined in the Northeast, the Midwest, and the West. In the South, however, the murder rate increased from 6.8 in 2006 to 7.0 in 2007, the highest rate among the four regions. The South consistently has had the highest murder rate among the four regions.

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This is how Harvard professor, Steven Pinker, explains this:

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American rates, too, have fallen steeply over the past two or three centuries. Pinker sees this decline as part of the “civilizing process,” a term he borrows from the sociologist Norbert Elias, who attributes it to the consolidation of the power of the state above feudal loyalties, and to the effect of the spread of commerce. (Consistent with this view, Pinker argues that at least part of the reason for the regional differences in American homicide rates is that people in the South are less likely to accept the state’s monopoly on force. Instead, a tradition of self-help justice and a “culture of honor” sanctions retaliation when one is insulted or mistreated. Statistics bear this out — the higher homicide rate in the South is due to quarrels that turn lethal, not to more killings during armed robberies — and experiments show that even today Southerners respond more strongly to insults than Northerners.)

http://www.nytimes.c...?pagewanted=all

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 05:37 PM

View PostJeffertonturner, on 02 July 2013 - 03:53 PM, said:

Even one child dying needlessly is too many. Just my opinion though.

No one is arguing that, but in the grand scheme of things, if I'm contemplating letting my daughter go over to the neighbor's house, I'd be much more concerned about how they store their household chemicals or how they secure their swimming pool gate than whether or not they have a firearm in the house.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 05:41 PM

View PostThe world needs you, on 02 July 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

Not surprising this happened in Kentucky.

The states with the most gun fanatics will have the most "accidents".

It is their choice, that is why they have the most murders too. Maybe they will learn that gun reform is in their and their children's favor.

Kentucky doesn't have the highest murder rate.  It's not even close.

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