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Posted 03 July 2013 - 04:59 PM

The Guardian said:


A hidden microphone has been found inside the Ecuadorean embassy in London, where the WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is holed up, according to the country's foreign minister.

Ricardo Patiño said the device had been discovered a fortnight ago inside the office of the Ecuadorean ambassador, Ana Alban, while he was in the UK to meet Assange and discuss the whistleblower's plight with the British foreign secretary, William Hague.

"We regret to inform you that in our embassy in London we have found a hidden microphone," Patiño told a news conference in Quito on Tuesday.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 05:13 PM

So someone paid someone to spy on someone in the embassy and that someone said yes. Would it be surprising if someone from the embassy did NOT know about the bug.....nope!
Well its not quite Watergate.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 05:19 PM

suspend the status of the Ecuadorian embassy, and send in the police arrest Assange and deport him, problem solved, done and dusted.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 05:23 PM

View Poststevewinn, on 03 July 2013 - 05:19 PM, said:

suspend the status of the Ecuadorian embassy, and send in the police arrest Assange and deport him, problem solved, done and dusted.

Problem is that after diplomatic rules, if relations get suspended another country takes over the interests of Ecuador (i.e. Switzerland for the US in Iran), Assange is still there, can't be arrested and the damage to relations with Ecuador are irreparable.

Brilliant idea my mucker, very brilliant.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 05:35 PM

Oh dear. Still, it's not uncommon in these older properties with less conscientious landlords. Perhaps they could try a reputable brand of Insect repellent.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 06:05 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 03 July 2013 - 05:23 PM, said:

Problem is that after diplomatic rules, if relations get suspended another country takes over the interests of Ecuador (i.e. Switzerland for the US in Iran), Assange is still there, can't be arrested and the damage to relations with Ecuador are irreparable.

Brilliant idea my mucker, very brilliant.

no, its very simple, we suspend the embassy status, it then just becomes another building like anyother other, the police enter and arrest Assange, and we hand him over, who cares if relations with Ecuador are damaged. who the hell is Ecuador, to many politicians these days are more concerned with what others think. we should just get on with the job in hand. we've got four police officers on guard 24/7 waiting at the embassy in case Assange tries to leave once he steps out the door he can be arrested. in my view within hours of him fleeing into the embassy we should have acted. it would have been over and done with months ago, over 12 months ago in fact.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 06:14 PM

View Poststevewinn, on 03 July 2013 - 06:05 PM, said:

no, its very simple, we suspend the embassy status, it then just becomes another building like anyother other, the police enter and arrest Assange, and we hand him over, who cares if relations with Ecuador are damaged. who the hell is Ecuador, to many politicians these days are more concerned with what others think. we should just get on with the job in hand. we've got four police officers on guard 24/7 waiting at the embassy in case Assange tries to leave once he steps out the door he can be arrested. in my view within hours of him fleeing into the embassy we should have acted. it would have been over and done with months ago, over 12 months ago in fact.

So, why was that not done in past cases? Because the building still is sovereign territory of Ecuador just as any former British embassy where Britain does not have any diplomatic relations. And until Britain does not break relationships with all suitable representatives that can take over the representation of Ecuador it will remain that way. That is why we had those hundreds of people in Western representations in the East Block during the cold war. The only way to change that is that Ecuador renounces the building. As long as Assange is in there I doubt that will happen.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 10:24 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 03 July 2013 - 06:14 PM, said:

So, why was that not done in past cases? Because the building still is sovereign territory of Ecuador just as any former British embassy where Britain does not have any diplomatic relations. And until Britain does not break relationships with all suitable representatives that can take over the representation of Ecuador it will remain that way. That is why we had those hundreds of people in Western representations in the East Block during the cold war. The only way to change that is that Ecuador renounces the building. As long as Assange is in there I doubt that will happen.
Given the way he's been behaving, I'd say they'll renounce Assange.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 11:16 PM

I wonder how all of this is affecting foreigners living in Ecuador.  Plenty of people retire there since it is so cheap.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 11:28 PM

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So someone paid someone to spy on someone in the embassy and that someone said yes. Would it be surprising if someone from the embassy did NOT know about the bug.....nope!
Well its not quite Watergate.
If it is such that they are able to find it then they put it there.


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Posted 04 July 2013 - 10:03 AM

View PostFrank Merton, on 03 July 2013 - 11:28 PM, said:

If it is such that they are able to find it then they put it there.

Well, I would not have put it on the blackboard and would have used it to send MI5 on a wild goose chase.

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 10:06 AM

View PostFrank Merton, on 03 July 2013 - 11:28 PM, said:

If it is such that they are able to find it then they put it there.
indeed, the CIA or MI5 or NSA or whoever you like can bug people in much more discreet ways without having to do all the old fashioned things like planting hidden mcirophones, as we all know.

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 10:12 AM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 04 July 2013 - 10:06 AM, said:

indeed, the CIA or MI5 or NSA or whoever you like can bug people in much more discreet ways without having to do all the old fashioned things like planting hidden mcirophones, as we all know.

Mostly unsuspecting people is who they can bug in a more effective way, those who expect it (i.e. Embassies) cannot, they are perfectly capable of even finding the latest technology... if they suspect something is going on.

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 12:46 PM

Well, exactly; throw them an obvious bug, like something out of a 1970s spy movie, and let them think that they've got that sorted, and then carry on eavesdropping on them by the real, rather more sophisticated, methods at your disposal.

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 01:16 PM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 04 July 2013 - 12:46 PM, said:

Well, exactly; throw them an obvious bug, like something out of a 1970s spy movie, and let them think that they've got that sorted, and then carry on eavesdropping on them by the real, rather more sophisticated, methods at your disposal.

More likely is: improvise what you can and it will last while it lasts.

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