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Posted 10 July 2013 - 06:31 PM

View PostSweetpumper, on 10 July 2013 - 06:15 PM, said:

Right. No professionals I know use GIMP. Or Inkscape.

Then it is time you meet some

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 06:45 PM

I've never met any I can work with, lets put it that way. A huge part of the problem is that anyone that owns a computer and has free software thinks they are an artist. I run into that weekly.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 06:46 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 10 July 2013 - 03:07 PM, said:

And if you use the Gimp under Linux/Unix it beats Photoshop under Windows any day hands down (Does not reach the Mac performance though).

I was wondering why you state PS runs better on a Mac operating system than on Windows, surely the spec' of the individual machine has more of an effect than the brand?

Edited by Junior Chubb, 10 July 2013 - 06:50 PM.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 06:49 PM

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I was wondering why you state PS runs faster on a Mac than on windows, surely the spec' of the individual machine has more of an effect than the brand?

Most certainly it will run faster on 2013 Windows machine than on a 2000 Mac.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 06:53 PM

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I was wondering why you state PS runs better on a Mac than on Windows, surely the spec' of the individual machine has more of an effect than the brand?

My co-worker uses a Windows machine, and anything that needs Photoshop work, she usually sends to me. I've never asked why.

I've been recruited by other companies and my interest comes to a screeching halt when I find out their art departments are PC based.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 07:05 PM

View PostSweetpumper, on 10 July 2013 - 06:53 PM, said:

My co-worker uses a Windows machine, and anything that needs Photoshop work, she usually sends to me. I've never asked why.

I've been recruited by other companies and my interest comes to a screeching halt when I find out their art departments are PC based.

You do carry a few preconceptions with you. ;)

Gimp preconceptions, Windows preconceptions...

I don't have any issues using PS on Windows myself (I have not used a Mac since my last educational stint), I can't remember any distinct advantages to using a Mac, except of course the advantage of working with Mr Sweetpumper. :)

For me its swings and roundabouts, both have strengths and weaknesses, both have fans and (forgive the phrase) haters. I remember there being an advantage using a Mac for digital image related work in the 90's but I thought this had passed.

Edited by Junior Chubb, 10 July 2013 - 07:08 PM.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 07:08 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 10 July 2013 - 06:49 PM, said:

Most certainly it will run faster on 2013 Windows machine than on a 2000 Mac.

Very diplomatic. :tu:

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 07:13 PM

View PostJunior Chubb, on 10 July 2013 - 07:05 PM, said:

You do carry a few preconceptions with you. ;)

Gimp preconceptions, Windows preconceptions...

I don't have any issues using PS on Windows myself (I have not used a Mac since my last educational stint), I can't remember any distinct advantages to using a Mac, except of course the advantage of working with Mr Sweetpumper. :)

For me its swings and roundabouts, both have strengths and weaknesses, both have fans and (forgive the phrase) haters. I remember there being an advantage using a Mac for digital image related work in the 90's but I thought this had passed.

I guess the main thing I see with her PC is that it's always crashing and being cleaned up by our IT guy. It's ridiculous. And she uses CorelDraw. Posted Image

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 07:20 PM

And to be fair, I have to redo a lot of art, no matter what program they've used to create it. Again, too many people thinking they're artists because they have the programs.

I even had a bus load of graphic artists from Marvel Studios in here when we were filming The Avengers and none of them knew how to use Illustrator. Blew me away.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 07:23 PM

View PostSweetpumper, on 10 July 2013 - 07:20 PM, said:

And to be fair, I have to redo a lot of art, no matter what program they've used to create it. Again, too many people thinking they're artists because they have the programs.

I even had a bus load of graphic artists from Marvel Studios in here when we were filming The Avengers and none of them knew how to use Illustrator. Blew me away.

It is never the used tool, it is always the incapability of those who use it. A good graphic artist will return good graphic art with anything that is capable of making lines and polygons.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 07:29 PM

A graphic artist, yes. A dude with a computer, no.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 08:01 PM

View PostSweetpumper, on 10 July 2013 - 07:13 PM, said:

I guess the main thing I see with her PC is that it's always crashing and being cleaned up by our IT guy. It's ridiculous. And she uses CorelDraw. Posted Image

Some people seem to have the magic ability to make PC's crash, luckily I do not have this gene...

Corel draw, I remember that. What an apt smiley. ;)

View PostSweetpumper, on 10 July 2013 - 07:20 PM, said:

And to be fair, I have to redo a lot of art, no matter what program they've used to create it. Again, too many people thinking they're artists because they have the programs.

I even had a bus load of graphic artists from Marvel Studios in here when we were filming The Avengers and none of them knew how to use Illustrator. Blew me away.

Have to agree with QM on this, the issues you have are with the user as opposed to the software. I think the Marvel/Avengers issue is a great example of how some people get these jobs, its not what you know but who you know.

I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other. I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to show me where the hell Helen of Annoy has been for the past couple of months.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 08:18 PM

Anyway, I'll rent. :)

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 08:23 PM

View PostSweetpumper, on 10 July 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

Anyway, I'll rent. :)

:lol:   Are you suggesting we were going off-topic?

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 08:27 PM

Yeah, I had to read the thread title again.

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