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#16    danielost

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 08:37 PM

View PostKnight Of Shadows, on 08 July 2013 - 07:48 PM, said:


yes .. and i will never " run away " from my country
is that a problem to you ? and why bring it up ?

Because you said no military shoud rule a country and syria is ruled via the military.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 09:40 PM

View Postdanielost, on 09 July 2013 - 08:37 PM, said:

Because you said no military shoud rule a country and syria is ruled via the military.
syria is occupied my friend not ruled

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 10:57 PM

Occupied by its own military.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 10:59 PM

and people are fighting against it

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 10:02 AM

Currently it isn't a Democracy.  There was a coup d'etat and the military intervened to stop a religious party and its followers from changing the Constitution for their own benefit and force the country into another dictatorship.  Military interventions are dangerous, but a negative can turn into a positive if the military now step out of it and allow the people to decide the future of the country.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 10:05 AM

View PostKnight Of Shadows, on 09 July 2013 - 10:59 PM, said:

and people are fighting against it
I'm under sound advice from many people in my own country that what's happening in your country every day doesn't happen anymore.  ;)

How can you possibly fight against the bombers and tanks and weapons of mass destruction of the government forces?   :whistle:

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 11:21 AM

View PostYamato, on 10 July 2013 - 10:05 AM, said:

I'm under sound advice from many people in my own country that what's happening in your country every day doesn't happen anymore.  ;)

How can you possibly fight against the bombers and tanks and weapons of mass destruction of the government forces?   :whistle:
what you mean it doesn't happen anymore ? it's happening worst than ever never stopped :D
and they fight tanks and bombers by shouting allahu akabar on them .. sometimes they blow up other times they don't
regardless of how much heavy and big weapons they got .. they're not doing well to be honest

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 11:48 AM

View PostBlack Red Devil, on 10 July 2013 - 10:02 AM, said:

Currently it isn't a Democracy.  There was a coup d'etat and the military intervened to stop a religious party and its followers from changing the Constitution for their own benefit and force the country into another dictatorship.  Military interventions are dangerous, but a negative can turn into a positive if the military now step out of it and allow the people to decide the future of the country.

But both in Egypt and in Turkey, the armee is the force that gives (some) protection to secularism. Without the bulwark of the armee, the islamists will take over and create their theocratic dictatorship. (Mind you, in their mind, they are doing God´s work.)

You really can not compare this with Western democracies, where we have the luxury of having armees under democratic control. And Western politicians are making a horribly naive mistake by doing that.

Edited by Zaphod222, 10 July 2013 - 11:49 AM.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 02:14 PM

View PostZaphod222, on 10 July 2013 - 11:48 AM, said:

But both in Egypt and in Turkey, the armee is the force that gives (some) protection to secularism. Without the bulwark of the armee, the islamists will take over and create their theocratic dictatorship. (Mind you, in their mind, they are doing God´s work.)

You really can not compare this with Western democracies, where we have the luxury of having armees under democratic control. And Western politicians are making a horribly naive mistake by doing that.
turkey is ruled by islamic party
and in turkey all periods of times it did not know peace or prosperty like it does now " under islamic party rule "
how do you explain that ? sherelock ?

you remember turkey right ? military pushing any one who doesn't fit their agenda
an unstable country .. full of conflicts and now look at it

Edited by Knight Of Shadows, 10 July 2013 - 02:14 PM.

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