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#1    danielost

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 03:53 AM

Basicly religion is hope.

Hope for an after life, the abrahamic religions.

Hope to return as a cow.  Hinduism(I hope I wrong about that.)

Hope to return in a better class. Budists.

Hope that someone cares about you when it seems no one on earth does.

Someone to blame when everything goes wrong.

Hope for a lover waiting for you.

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 04:12 AM

Religion is whatever you believe in despite all evidence to the contrary.


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Posted 15 July 2013 - 04:16 AM

View Postdanielost, on 15 July 2013 - 03:53 AM, said:

Basicly religion is hope.

Hope for an after life, the abrahamic religions.

Hope to return as a cow.  Hinduism(I hope I wrong about that.)

Hope to return in a better class. Budists.

Hope that someone cares about you when it seems no one on earth does.

Someone to blame when everything goes wrong.

Hope for a lover waiting for you.

"Religion" is a word derived from the Latin 'religare, referring to 'tying together' the human and a conception of the divine. A number of Christians prefer to call that connection a "relationship" in which God reaches out to humanity, to emphasize that humans cannot 'reach up' to God. Whatever word is used, religious feeling, searching and commitment is one of the most intimate yet most universal aspects of being human. Yes, formal religion often takes a beating in some of these threads; a recent post somewhere reminded us that it's not an arguable issue given personal and deep-seated opinions and beliefs. However, all people have an "ultimate concern" (German theologian Paul Tillich's term) which will largely define how they live their lives (money; family; pride; freedom; homeland; Jesus; football; honesty; compassion; philanthropy; survival; Allah; etc. etc.).

I like your emphasis on hope. Not all faith traditions offer hope that is compatible with many UM thinkers and skeptics.

Despite childhood "formal" religious instruction, as well as adult academic endeavors in theology, my hope is simple: That things will not always be as they are.

Edited by szentgyorgy, 15 July 2013 - 04:18 AM.

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 05:17 AM

View Postflbrnt, on 15 July 2013 - 04:12 AM, said:

Religion is whatever you believe in despite all evidence to the contrary.

No, no. That's not a very accurate definition at all. Ideas, moral values, and parables found in religious texts/stories are hardly such tangible things that can be somehow disproved with evidence. These things mostly make up what we call religion. If you're referring to evidence contrary to a creator existing, I don't think anyone has found that evidence yet.

"But evolution is real and proven!"

"So?"

"Well, religion X says God created everything!"

"But show me the evidence that says something didn't create everything, including adaptable creatures."

"Well, well.. there's so much death and hate in the world! Why would a creator allow this to happen to the world?"

"I don't have a clue. I didn't make it. But I won't pretend to know the reasoning for that creator if they did indeed exist. So, where is that evidence, again?"

A funny note is that your loaded definition would also place believing 'rods' are alien robots, and me thinking I will become America's Next Top Model, as religions. That would make me god of fashion.

But an interesting side note is that you could replace the word religion with hope, and in many cases it would fit well into your askew definition, but might make you see it in a more novel light. Probably not, though. It did for me, at least.

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 07:33 AM

Religion is the opium of the masses
Religion is the oppression of the masses
Religion is an excuse for criminals to get rich
Religion is an excuse for murder

Religion is a crutch

Edited by Tutankhaten-pasheri, 15 July 2013 - 07:36 AM.


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Posted 15 July 2013 - 09:34 AM

Religion isn't a crutch. It is a helping hand.  Most help comes in the form of people who share your religion.

I am a mormon.  If I don't use mormons believe, those my beliefs only.
I do not go to church haven't for thirty years.
There are other mormons on this site. So if I have misspoken about the beliefs. I welcome their input.
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Posted 15 July 2013 - 10:00 AM

Religion is paying money to old white men to get in to heaven.

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 10:09 AM

Religion is an excuse for rational people to do irrational things.

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 12:27 PM

View Postdanielost, on 15 July 2013 - 09:34 AM, said:

Religion isn't a crutch. It is a helping hand.  Most help comes in the form of people who share your religion.
And by implication those with no religion ever receive or give any help. Seems then that religion is needed to enable us to live, a sort of crutch.....

Edited by Tutankhaten-pasheri, 15 July 2013 - 12:28 PM.


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Posted 15 July 2013 - 01:22 PM

View Postdanielost, on 15 July 2013 - 09:34 AM, said:

Religion isn't a crutch. It is a helping hand.  

That's what a crutch is, a helping hand...  Why else would people with sore and broken limbs use them?

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 01:25 PM

Na, religion is not the belief in a god. An example of this is the budhists.  Anything can be and is worshiped.  A church is a group of people support in what they believe.  A church is a crutch.

I am a mormon.  If I don't use mormons believe, those my beliefs only.
I do not go to church haven't for thirty years.
There are other mormons on this site. So if I have misspoken about the beliefs. I welcome their input.
I am not perfect and never will be. I do strive to be true to myself. I do my best to stay true to the mormon faith. Thank for careing and if you don't peace be with you. http://fremerica.freeforums.net/

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 03:38 PM

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 04:17 PM

Religion is something people make up over drinks and smokes. Maybe a few mushrooms.

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 05:04 PM

View PostZaraKitty, on 15 July 2013 - 10:00 AM, said:

Religion is paying money to old white men to get in to heaven.

Bad religion is listening to old white men who say give me money so you can go heaven.

Good religion is following your heart.

I am a mormon.  If I don't use mormons believe, those my beliefs only.
I do not go to church haven't for thirty years.
There are other mormons on this site. So if I have misspoken about the beliefs. I welcome their input.
I am not perfect and never will be. I do strive to be true to myself. I do my best to stay true to the mormon faith. Thank for careing and if you don't peace be with you. http://fremerica.freeforums.net/

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 05:18 PM

View PostDarkwind, on 15 July 2013 - 04:17 PM, said:

Religion is something people make up over drinks and smokes. Maybe a few mushrooms.

"Now they will retreat into a cloud of smoke and congratulate each other on being masters of the universe." - Kate Winslet as Rose in Titanic ...

Edited by HavocWing, 15 July 2013 - 05:18 PM.

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