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Validity of an old American West photo


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#1    ohio_traveler

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 05:48 PM

A made a copy of a photo that a friend of mine had. ( His was a copy also )

I'm trying to figure out if the people in this pic are actually the names that are noted.

Hopefully there are some American history buffs on here who can tell me whether or not the names are accurate.

Would be cool if they were. All being in one photo like this

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 06:06 PM

The guy in the back looks like Earp. As far as the validity, that can only be established by following the trail of this photo's existence. Just because it looks old it does not mean it also is

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 06:08 PM

View PostClyde the Glyde, on 20 July 2013 - 05:48 PM, said:

A made a copy of a photo that a friend of mine had. ( His was a copy also )

I'm trying to figure out if the people in this pic are actually the names that are noted.

Hopefully there are some American history buffs on here who can tell me whether or not the names are accurate.

Would be cool if they were. All being in one photo like this

See the following:

http://www.huntersho...nfo/page-4.html

Hope it helps.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 06:11 PM

Without looking for all their DOB, is it even possible that such a collection of famous names would be in such a photo together?


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Posted 20 July 2013 - 06:12 PM

i can't read the names on my tinty little phonescreen Clyde, any chance you could write them out for me....?

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 06:13 PM

View PostTutankhaten-pasheri, on 20 July 2013 - 06:11 PM, said:

Without looking for all their DOB, is it even possible that such a collection of famous names would be in such a photo together?

No, or at least unlikely, the Sundance Kid was still a measly paid Cowboy at the time...hardly a person to be on a picture with well recognizable people. Just as an example... but I could be wrong.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 06:17 PM

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See the following:

http://www.huntersho...nfo/page-4.html

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Edited by phantasia, 20 July 2013 - 06:17 PM.


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Posted 20 July 2013 - 06:18 PM

what, like the possibility of getting all these famous people together?-
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http://www.aip.org/h...images/ae66.jpg
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of course it's possible.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 06:19 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 20 July 2013 - 06:13 PM, said:

No, or at least unlikely, the Sundance Kid was still a measly paid Cowboy at the time...hardly a person to be on a picture with well recognizable people. Just as an example... but I could be wrong.
And I was thinking also of Teddy Roosevelt. I knew he was quite some charcter, but this seems a bit too far to be in a photo like this. I'm surpised it doesn't include Washington, Robert. E, Lee, Pocahontas, Davy Crocket and King George


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Posted 20 July 2013 - 06:21 PM

View Postshrooma, on 20 July 2013 - 06:18 PM, said:

what, like the possibility of getting all these famous people together?-
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http://www.aip.org/h...images/ae66.jpg
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of course it's possible.

If they all were famous at the same time... yes it is possible.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 06:22 PM

I thought Judge Roy Bean was a character in Clint Eastwood film, or do I have the wrong name...


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Posted 20 July 2013 - 06:22 PM

View PostTutankhaten-pasheri, on 20 July 2013 - 06:19 PM, said:

And I was thinking also of Teddy Roosevelt. I knew he was quite some charcter, but this seems a bit too far to be in a photo like this. I'm surpised it doesn't include Washington, Robert. E, Lee, Pocahontas, Davy Crocket and King George

Roosevelt was not poor and went on expensive hunting trips in his youth and middle age. So that would be one of the acceptable persons on the picture.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 06:24 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 20 July 2013 - 06:21 PM, said:

If they all were famous at the same time... yes it is possible.
Too early for Roosevelt then. I thought he never became really famous until Spanish-American war a long time after this photo.

And you made your post above a fraction of a second before mine

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 06:26 PM

View PostTutankhaten-pasheri, on 20 July 2013 - 06:22 PM, said:

I thought Judge Roy Bean was a character in Clint Eastwood film, or do I have the wrong name...

No, Judge Roy Bean was a self appointed Judge, famous for hanging people for spitting on the floor. He actually existed. But he hardly hung anybody.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 06:28 PM

were there REALLY people named "Texas John Slaughter" and "Liver-eating Johnson"??
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