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#1    danielost

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 03:43 AM

If you go by the bible humans are the most importent being on earth.  We look like god.  We know good from evil.


If you go by science we are just a bunch of smart monkeys

My opinion is we are special in the eyes of god.  That all lfe forms are our brothers and sisters in the sceem of things.

I can't go by science because there are too many unanswered questions that nobody seems to be answered.

According to science man evolved from the chimp.  We got our large brain by eating meat.  Ok if that worked on us how come the preditors don't have a large bran.  Further chimps also eat meat, no large brain.

According to science we stood up on our hind legs to be able to over the grass for danger and it helped to cut the energy needed to walk between trees.  Again same question if this was such a good thing how come only humans and pre-humans did it.

I will leave evolving mammals for another time.

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 03:50 AM

One more thing.  Humans seem to be outside the food chain, except for hunters.  Our food comes pre-packed and ready to eat.  The animals we comsume are mostly outside the normal food chain.  There are no predaters to worry about on a daily bases. True once in a while you hear about a lion or tiger killing someone for food, but not to often.

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 04:06 AM

I'm called a human by other sources who present themselves as also being like me.

But all I truly know is that I think, so therefore I am. What I am, however, I am not certain. All of the religious and science books that exist and likely ever will exist won't truly be able to get me past this point of unsure stance of whether whatever is outside of my personal consciousness even truly exists. I can only trust that all around me is real, but all I know is that I am real. This makes me a being, and I suppose the human name works as well as any other.

So I am a human, but lately have been seeing myself in a more simplified light. I'm consciousness. I just wanted to add an extra addition to what seems to be leading to only two main options in the OP.

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 04:24 AM

View Postdanielost, on 22 July 2013 - 03:50 AM, said:

One more thing.  Humans seem to be outside the food chain, except for hunters.  Our food comes pre-packed and ready to eat.  The animals we comsume are mostly outside the normal food chain.  There are no predaters to worry about on a daily bases. True once in a while you hear about a lion or tiger killing someone for food, but not to often.

Try going out in the African wilds there are lots of predators willing to eat us and did eat us during our evolution.

For the rest in your fist post, its all been covered before, you'll just ignore it now like you did then.


As for what is a human;
Kingdom:   Animalia
Phylum:   Chordata
Subphylum:   Vertebrata
Class:   Mammalia
Subclass:   Theria
Infraclass:   Eutheria
Order:   Primates
Suborder:  Anthropoidea
Superfamily:   Hominoidea
Family:   Hominidae
Genus: Homo
Species:   sapiens

Edited by Odin11, 22 July 2013 - 04:33 AM.

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 05:29 AM

View Postdanielost, on 22 July 2013 - 03:43 AM, said:

If you go by the bible humans are the most importent being on earth.  We look like god.  We know good from evil.

If you go by science we are just a bunch of smart monkeys

My opinion is we are special in the eyes of god.  That all lfe forms are our brothers and sisters in the sceem of things.

I can't go by science because there are too many unanswered questions that nobody seems to be answered.

According to science man evolved from the chimp.  We got our large brain by eating meat.  Ok if that worked on us how come the preditors don't have a large bran.  Further chimps also eat meat, no large brain.

According to science we stood up on our hind legs to be able to over the grass for danger and it helped to cut the energy needed to walk between trees.  Again same question if this was such a good thing how come only humans and pre-humans did it.

I will leave evolving mammals for another time.

You're starting out with incorrect information to begin with. Science does not say we evolved from the chimpanzee. What it does say is that our ancestors and chimpanzees shared a common ancestor about 6 million years, with neither line being the origin of the other.

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 06:35 AM

I think we as humans are infinite consciousness.
We are powerful being with unlimited potential....
When we are awaken we can do and manifest what we wish...

I believe we as humans are made in God's image...
and that is why we are creative...

I am to good to have come from Chimps...
I come from angelic bloodlines if any..
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of this sphere..
I believe once humans tap into their real potential..
and true super natural power and nature..
they can never be controled or contained
by the so called masters of this realm any longer..

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 07:17 AM

View PostLostSouls7, on 22 July 2013 - 06:35 AM, said:

I am to good to have come from Chimps...

That right there is why I think Evolution is one of the most important ideas ever to occur to the human mind. It puts us firmly in our place in the natural world. We are not ethereal creatures that float above it and dictate to it, nature dictates to us. We do not own the Earth, we are inhabitants, just like all the rest of the animal kingdom. At best we are stewards for the Earth, and at the moment we're doing a pretty poor job of that.

What is man? One manifestation of the continuum that is life. That we exist to call ourselves special does not make it so. Trilobites probably thought they were pretty special too.

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 09:54 AM

View PostOdin11, on 22 July 2013 - 04:24 AM, said:



Try going out in the African wilds there are lots of predators willing to eat us and did eat us during our evolution.

For the rest in your fist post, its all been covered before, you'll just ignore it now like you did then.


As for what is a human;
Kingdom:   Animalia
Phylum:   Chordata
Subphylum:   Vertebrata
Class:   Mammalia
Subclass:   Theria
Infraclass:   Eutheria
Order:   Primates
Suborder:  Anthropoidea
Superfamily:   Hominoidea
Family:   Hominidae
Genus: Homo
Species:   sapiens

The hippo kill more than all of the preditors in africa.  Further I watch big cat diary during the week.  The lions walk right by the humans and their camaras even when they are hungry.  Some of the cheetas use the trucks as termite mounds.  And the lipoerds will lay in reaching distance of the humans.  Sorry about my spelling.

Edited by danielost, 22 July 2013 - 09:59 AM.

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 12:09 PM

View Postdanielost, on 22 July 2013 - 03:43 AM, said:

If you go by the bible humans are the most importent being on earth.  We look like god.  We know good from evil.

There are other moral species, we are not that special.

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If you go by science we are just a bunch of smart monkeys

You mean apes.

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That all lfe forms are our brothers and sisters in the sceem of things.

I'll buy that.

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I can't go by science because there are too many unanswered questions that nobody seems to be answered.

There are always unanswered questions, in every field of study. What do you mean you "can't go by science"? Are you saying that since science doesn't know everything about the behaviour of electrons, you can't use electronics, like a personal computer and broadband electronic communication?

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According to science man evolved from the chimp.

Already addressed, we shared a common ancestor.

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We got our large brain by eating meat.

That's just one theory.

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Ok if that worked on us how come the preditors don't have a large bran.  Further chimps also eat meat, no large brain.

According to science we stood up on our hind legs to be able to over the grass for danger and it helped to cut the energy needed to walk between trees.  Again same question if this was such a good thing how come only humans and pre-humans did it.

If carrying around your young in a marsupial pouch is so effective, why don't all mammals do it? Different adaptations for different environments were naturally selected.

I have another question for you. If humans are special, in that we have immortal souls from God, where and how do you draw the line in the list of hominids? Did Neanderthal have a soul? What about homo erectus? How about Homo floresiensis,a species that went extinct only 12,000 years ago?


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Posted 22 July 2013 - 12:42 PM

View Postdanielost, on 22 July 2013 - 03:43 AM, said:

If you go by the bible humans are the most importent being on earth.  We look like god.  We know good from evil.


If you go by science we are just a bunch of smart monkeys

My opinion is we are special in the eyes of god.  That all lfe forms are our brothers and sisters in the sceem of things.

I can't go by science because there are too many unanswered questions that nobody seems to be answered.

According to science man evolved from the chimp.  We got our large brain by eating meat.  Ok if that worked on us how come the preditors don't have a large bran.  Further chimps also eat meat, no large brain.

According to science we stood up on our hind legs to be able to over the grass for danger and it helped to cut the energy needed to walk between trees.  Again same question if this was such a good thing how come only humans and pre-humans did it.

I will leave evolving mammals for another time.

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This Awareness indicates that the whites came to that area of Carpathia from the Pleiadian system. They brought the whites in and left groups in Carpathia and from there, these entities moved into different directions. This Awareness indicates that the different races were originally created by that which has been termed as the Prism of Lyra, the white hole through which light enters into this universe and spreads into different rays as through a prism, and each ray having created its own species of humanoid type being.


This Awareness indicates that the green ray and the blue ray, indigo and violet, red, orange and yellow rays, each creating a different species. That the black race and white race were created at the same time, but were later changed by environmental conditions that altered their pigments and genes because of separation into different locations, these on sub-levels.


This Awareness indicates that all humans, except the Semites were created through the same ray. The Reptoids, the Zeta Reticulli, the Orions and others were created from different rays, but the humans all began as the same beings, the same type of being, and what you see now are sub-races of the human race. These were created largely by their movement into different places, having different kinds of environmental influences on them, to cause them to alter and progress in different directions, toward different coloration, pigmentation and physical features.


This Awareness indicates that the Semites were a race created from the cloning process of Jehovah in the area of Mars and that they were transported on Earth by the Orion engineers. This Awareness indicates that these entities were then placed on Earth to be used for mining in the areas of Africa, but were found to be disobedient and therefore, unworkable in that capacity.


The Orion entities were driven away; this including Jehovah, and the Sirius entities entered and influenced the further development and progression of the races and entities on Earth for some time, establishing certain structures and organization to keep the civilization progressing.

This Awareness indicates that the Pleiadian influence had occurred on Earth before this time period, but that it was again repeated at a somewhat later date in which the Pleiadians again returned to influence their seeding of the planet. This Awareness indicates that essentially, the planet was a kind of dumping ground for misfits and people who did not work out, the experiments that did not work out in other places, and this being much like Australia, wherein Australia was an isolated continent that could be used as a dumping ground for prisoners to get them out of society in Europe and yet let them live their own lives as they desired. This Awareness indicates that this was the case for many of these who were brought to Earth.


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Posted 22 July 2013 - 02:32 PM

I am the evolution of the Universe to reflect on itself. I am not the only being either and maybe not the smartest.  Other creatures have their role, too.

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 09:30 PM

A human is a primate that walks upright, and is almost hairless in comparison to the other primates on planet Earth.  The species carries a larger brain than most primates and has used that organ to create tools, languages, and machines.  While possessing the ability to reason, most specimens of H. Sapiens tend to fall back on the primitive, emotional responses to new stimuli and tend to disregard their higher brain functions.

As an anthropological note, Orangutans are the most monogamous primate species, chimpanzees the most promiscuous, and humans fall squarely in between them both.

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 10:19 PM

View Postdanielost, on 22 July 2013 - 03:43 AM, said:

I can't go by science because there are too many unanswered questions that nobody seems to be answered.


You don't like unanswered questions, yet you're reading the Bible?


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Posted 24 July 2013 - 10:59 PM

A large brain does not really mean much. Humans have a brain to body mass ratio of 1:40- so do mice. Ants have huge brain to body mass ratio- 1:7, and some birds range around 1:12. Elephants are known to be intelligent animals, and their ratio is 1:560.
Within the more human range, our brains have shrunk a bit over time. Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons had larger brains than modern humans do.

Edit: had to say something about our food coming pre-packaged and ready to eat. That's not the case everywhere. There are places in the world where people never eat PP or RTE foods- they farm, hunt, and gather and cook from scratch. PP and RTE foods have only really seriously come about as a commonly available commodity in the last 100 years or so- before that it was farm, hunt, gather and cook from scratch for everyone.

Edited by rashore, 24 July 2013 - 11:07 PM.


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Posted 24 July 2013 - 11:29 PM

That is true but, at least in america we go to the supermarket.  Yes, I know that not everyone has a supermarket to go to.  Also I made allowances for hunters.

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