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WC_UFO (Billy Meier case, 1980)

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#16    Quaentum

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 04:57 PM

View Posthunray, on 26 July 2013 - 03:22 PM, said:

1.There is only one intersection - if you had read the text.
2.You just proved that Billy come to the future, used Photoshop, then back to 1975~1980.
3.Secrets of the Nazi-Bell



1.  You missed the point that a smaller object at a closer distance will give the same results as a larger object at a farther distance and I guess you didn't go to the page I linked to showing that his wedding cake ufo was man made.

2.  Since the writing on one picture says they were taken by Guido Moosbrugger it wouldn't be Billy doing anything.  You also wrongly assume that the term photoshop job implicitly indicates the use of photoshop. The term these days mealy means the image has been altered.  Any method whether on the computer or in the darkroom can be used and yes before computers they were creating hoax pictures.  It still doesn't alter the fact that the bright light should be illuminating objects in the photos but doesn't which is a big give away to it being an altered picture.

3.  Which has nothing to do with the post I made but never the less it doesn't refute the facts that despite the desire for there to be, the evidence shows there was never a Nazi base in Antarctica.

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They didn't use thousands of workers - oops forgot about the work camps
There's no evidence for ramps - You found one?...Bummer
Well we know they didn't use ancient tools to cut and shape the stones - Chisel marks?  Craps
I still say aliens built them!

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 05:11 PM

The reflected image(Carriage house) on metal balls had determined its size.


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 05:27 PM

View Posthunray, on 26 July 2013 - 05:11 PM, said:

The reflected image(Carriage house) on metal balls had determined its size.

You can continue to ignore the evidence that shows that the supposed UFO was a human construct and you can post in huge letters but that doesn't change the facts.

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They didn't use thousands of workers - oops forgot about the work camps
There's no evidence for ramps - You found one?...Bummer
Well we know they didn't use ancient tools to cut and shape the stones - Chisel marks?  Craps
I still say aliens built them!

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 06:53 PM

View Posthunray, on 24 July 2013 - 09:55 AM, said:

Object size indicated by the reflected image:
http://hunray.xp3.biz/WC.htm

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google map search FIGU

It looks like Billy Meier is a celebrity. :yes:

He made it to Wikipedia!

Many more photos there.  Are they all fake? :no:

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Billy_Meier


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 06:57 PM

Of course all his pictures are fake.  How desperate do you have to be to try and sell the folks at UM Billy Meier?  C'mon guys, try a little harder.

Edited by phantasia, 26 July 2013 - 06:59 PM.

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 05:17 PM

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 05:39 PM

View PostQuaentum, on 26 July 2013 - 01:30 PM, said:



Interesting photoshop jobs.  I say photoshop because in several pictures, objects within the picture that should be lit by the intense light from the supposed UFO's aren't.  One example is the second row, second picture.  The trees and other objects have dark areas that wouldn't exist if it was a real illuminated object.
Nah, it's simply long exposure. The other ones are fireworks.

Edited by ShadowSot, 28 July 2013 - 05:39 PM.

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 05:51 AM

Some kook in the Spirituality vs Skepticism forum claimed when Billy Meier went to get the genuine UFO photos developed they were replaced with fake ones and Billy Meier didn't notice it..

http://www.unexplain...15#entry4688314

Edited by Rlyeh, 29 July 2013 - 05:55 AM.


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Posted 29 July 2013 - 08:54 AM

View PostRlyeh, on 29 July 2013 - 05:51 AM, said:

Some kook in the Spirituality vs Skepticism forum claimed when Billy Meier went to get the genuine UFO photos developed they were replaced with fake ones and Billy Meier didn't notice it..

http://www.unexplain...15#entry4688314

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 09:50 AM

I remember seeing one of Meier's shills on a KTVU Channel 2 morning show back in the 80s. I forget the guy's name but it was obvious that Meier was a fake even then. It's kinda sad that people want to believe so badly, they believe Meier is really in contact with aliens when it's such obvious BS.

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 10:48 AM

he's a hoaxer, that's for sure....but you got to give him that: he's very dedicated - and he's good! I mean, some of his photos are painfully fake (like that dinosaur stuff), but for a guy who's got only one arm he staged some stuff that i, personally, find pretty awesome....


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Posted 29 July 2013 - 02:50 PM

View Posthunray, on 28 July 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

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Again, reflection in a smaller object closer to the camera and a larger object farther away can give the same reflection properties so is not indicative of the size of the craft.  Combine that with what we see concerning the man made nature of the UFO and it spells F.R.A.U.D.

AA LOGIC
They didn't use thousands of workers - oops forgot about the work camps
There's no evidence for ramps - You found one?...Bummer
Well we know they didn't use ancient tools to cut and shape the stones - Chisel marks?  Craps
I still say aliens built them!

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 11:11 PM

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Example:

Calculate the distance between the camera to the center of the sphere.  (Camera size: 15 x 10 cm )


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Posted 30 July 2013 - 08:33 AM

sin θ/4 = 0.1754
θ = 40° ,  7.5 cm  x  tan 70° = 20.625 cm

You can do the experiment...  (no matter how big the sphere is.)


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Posted 31 July 2013 - 11:15 AM

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