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Do you believe in love?

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#1    tapirmusic


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Posted 25 July 2013 - 12:28 AM

This is a question I have for those who believe in science but not God.

Can you believe in Science and Love?

Or is Love only chemical / electrical impulses in our brains?

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 12:30 AM

Love is chemical/impulses in our brain.

It is definitely not something that can be simulated (religion).

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 12:30 AM

Whether love is caused by neurons or spirit, it is still a very real and powerful emotion all the same, and I very much believe in it, just as I believe in the scientific method.

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 12:39 AM

Yep, I believe in love. Don't matter to me that it's scientifically explainable. Love is one of those things where science is magic in my book.

Your ad hominem connotes your sciolism. Now that is some funny commentary.

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 12:48 AM

I believe in love, sure. I feel sorry for those people who say you can't prove love exists.

It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
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Posted 25 July 2013 - 01:07 AM

Love exists through and through :)... scientifically, spiritually, etc.

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 01:07 AM

Do you be-lieve in life after love, I can feel something inside me say, I really don't think your strong enough, nooo....

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 01:13 AM

View Posttapirmusic, on 25 July 2013 - 12:28 AM, said:

This is a question I have for those who believe in science but not God.

Can you believe in Science and Love?

Or is Love only chemical / electrical impulses in our brains?

Yes. Sexual attraction love starts with chemical and electrical impulses in the brain but like a drug it chemicals tend to wear off then it can be the end of a relationship or grows into several different kinds of love that are a relationship and a bond that is not ever broken.  Love may be a harmonious relationship that the chemicals kick in later after a friendhip. If you're really lucky you have both that doesn't wear off. Love is a respect, a bonding  and a harmonious relationship of caring that brings joy no matter what challenges are faced.  The broader scope of it's forms are really the hope and actual survival of mankind as a caring society. Unfortunately the chemical type is usually the stage that makes most people lose control of themselves one way or another. It's just a physical need of reproduction that stimulates but it can grow into something more that goes beyond what is generally understood by science. You don't have to believe in a personified god to know that when the all the powers of nature act in harmony and balance it is also a form of love which in fact starts as a survivival instinct to reproduce and grow whether animal human or even universes.

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 01:21 AM

I believe in love, yes its a chemical reaction in the beginning but if there is something there more than that it will grow into much more and become true love.  You can't force someone to love you, just because your intimate with them won't change that, either they do or they don't.

Edited by Hilander, 25 July 2013 - 01:21 AM.

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 01:37 AM

Love is just a word used to describe the results of a chemical process.
Is it more than just that or do are we just perpetuating a eternity of illusions? I don't know.

I do tend to think, however, that our definition of "love" is rather narrow and lopsided.

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 03:35 AM

There are so many different kinds and levels of love. Some are so strong that you can't even fathom it's existence until you experience it, and have nothing to do with sexual attraction or an unconscious desire to procreate.

Can the type of love a mother has for her baby before she's even laid eyes on him/her really be explained as "only" a chemical reaction?

Sure, there are electrochemical reactions involved in love. And that doesn't somehow make it false or imagined, just partially explained maybe.

Anyway, I love love. No matter what the explanation might be. :wub:

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 04:03 AM

View PostRyu, on 25 July 2013 - 01:37 AM, said:

Love is just a word used to describe the results of a chemical process.
Is it more than just that or do are we just perpetuating a eternity of illusions? I don't know.

I do tend to think, however, that our definition of "love" is rather narrow and lopsided.

I was going to say love is just a word.
I beleive its a chemical and neurological/phycological process. So its not just the drugs in our brains, its how we as an individual interpret and take action on said process.

Watch this space

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 04:57 AM

Love is a feeling of togetherness/belonging. Usually, we make love "exclusive" with only one other person and call it "romance". Pure love is shared with all and does not necessarily need to be sexual.

It is expressed in physical form as a chemical called "Oxytocin" which produces feels of cuddling, embrace, appreciation, and loyalty.

"But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil." - Luke 6:35

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 05:24 AM

Love is ALL in the mind..
it is not real ... i've been able to will my mind and soul to feel "good" and in love all the time...

But I am not with anyone....

you see the key is releasing those chemicals in the brain....
once you know how to do that... well the you feel great all the time....

Here is a GREAT video explaining the whole thing!
and I also don't buy this whole honey moon phase...
if they LOVE has died.. its OVER!!!
the flame dying down.... and settling .. Is NOT true love.

Watch this whole thing.. they did a real scientific... study..
and scan of the brain and they know what parts light up while in "love"
well they tested a couple who was in "love" for MANY years...
and they compared to a newly "in love" couple...
the results were the SAME!!!!

great REAL scientific research here.. i love it lol

this is how I know the whole honey moon phase.. oh love
is more than feelings and romance thing is all bull****..
that's just something unhappy people say!

Of course you can find ways to release these "love:" chemicals naturally or by yourself...
and feel in bliss all the time...
those are those.. people who annoy you... cause they are Happy ALL the time! lol...

when people depend on someone ELSE.. to create the feel good chemicals in the mind to feeel
good is often... when they say they are out of love cause they depend on someone else..
for the chemicals.. Illusion... and fantasy to live....

That's where the saying goes.. you gotta love. or be in love with your Self...
before you love someone else .. holds some truth...
but its still very fascinating..

Edited by LostSouls7, 25 July 2013 - 05:28 AM.

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 05:56 AM

Love is a temporary madness, it erupts like volcanoes and then subsides. And when it subsides, you have to make a decision. You have to work out whether your roots have so entwined together that it is inconceivable that you should ever part. Because this is what love is. Love itself is what is left over when being in love has burned away, and this is both an art and a fortunate accident.

Love is everything that blooms from nothing.

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