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#16    JesseCuster

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 05:10 PM

View PostCalibeliever, on 25 July 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

Ever a sceptic but ... If that was CG, that "customer" did a great acting job. *stumped*
He stood there reading the packaging on something and when the object fell off the shelf, he picked it up and put it back on the shelf and picked up the other object when it fell down.

It's hardly an acting masterclass from Daniel Day-Lewis.

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 05:14 PM

Levitating objects has been a illusionists tool for many decades.....

Not sure why this would trick anyone, when we see it all over the place....










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Posted 25 July 2013 - 05:36 PM

@Sakari Yeah but alongside the livitating box of tea, there is another item flying off the shelf on the left side which is not actually levitating but rather pushed. I also think that levitation can be reproduced by skilled illusionists and others strange phenomenon like the Uri Geller effect can be as well. That doesn't mean these phenomenons cannot occur in other circumstances because they can be reproduced in an artifical way.

Edited by sam_comm, 25 July 2013 - 05:41 PM.


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Posted 25 July 2013 - 05:52 PM

Did anyone notice the man in a black sweater ducking behind the shelf? An obvious hoax and prank.


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Posted 25 July 2013 - 06:07 PM

View Postsam_comm, on 25 July 2013 - 05:36 PM, said:

phenomenon like the Uri Geller effect


You do know he was proven to be a fraud right?

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 07:10 PM

View PostRyu, on 25 July 2013 - 05:52 PM, said:

Did anyone notice the man in a black sweater ducking behind the shelf? An obvious hoax and prank.
Haha.  You can see him at the very beginning in the lower-right security monitor watching the customer before he disappears behind the shelf.

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 07:23 PM

It is a fun video, but a prank/hoax.  Look at the "hovering" box and watch how it falls.  It doesn't just fall straight down.  Rather, it tumbles as it would if it were on a platform which was tilted to cause it to fall off.  Still, a cool video.


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Posted 25 July 2013 - 09:52 PM

I think we can tell it's a hoax, as I too saw what other saw, ie: what looked like a finger pushing the pink box out, and the person in black ducking out of camera view. After watching some amazing illusionists on telly lately, levitating items is part of their act.


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Posted 25 July 2013 - 10:41 PM

View PostSakari, on 25 July 2013 - 06:07 PM, said:

You do know he was proven to be a fraud right?

I am not aware that he was proven to be a fraud and nothing else but I do know that many skeptics including James Randi have found ways to duplicate his tricks using magic tricks and illusions.

But even so, others have different point of view:

"As a magician, I believe that the tests we did (with Geller) could not be duplicated in any way by a magician's methods."
Abb Dickson (Professional magician - U.S.A. and President of the International Brotherhood of
Magicians 1997-9

"You know, I like Uri Geller. He is a good guy. I think he made many things with his abilities. I think some of the things he shows are illusion. But I cannot claim for sure, that this applies to everything."

David Copperfield


On the other hand, others have stutied him such as scientists Russel Targ and Harold Puthoff of the Stanford Research Institute. they were convinced that Uri Geller' psychic abilities were genuine.

Also William E. Cox through a comittee investigated Geller with scrutiny and it gave interesting results.

" I tested Uri myself under laboratory-controlled conditions and saw with my own eyes the bending of a key which was not touched by Geller at any time. There was a group of people present during the experiment who all witnessed the key bending in eleven seconds to an angle of thirty degrees. Afterwards we tested the key in a scientific laboratory using devices such as electron microscopes and X-rays and found that there was no chemical, manual or mechanical forces involved in the bending of the key."
Professor Helmut Hoffmann (Department of Electrical Engineering, Technical University of Vienna, Austria)


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So, no doubt he is controversial and I think his personality fueled that but there are in fact two sides in this story and no definitive answer. Those who think Geller have legit psychic abilities to some extent and others who simply think he was a good illusionist and magician.

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 11:07 PM

View Postsam_comm, on 25 July 2013 - 10:41 PM, said:

psychic abilities to some extent and others who simply think he was a good illusionist and magician.

Psychic Abilities are not proven to exist, not even close. Closer to being proven they do not exist if anything.

Illusionists and Magicians tricks, they are known 100% to exist.


Uri is nothing special at all.

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 11:32 PM

Pish!!!


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 12:19 AM

utter rubbish


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 01:13 AM

View PostSakari, on 25 July 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

Psychic Abilities are not proven to exist, not even close. Closer to being proven they do not exist if anything.

Illusionists and Magicians tricks, they are known 100% to exist.

I disagree. Many cases of psychic abilities have been documented over the years in parapsychology such as psychic/medium ,poltergeist, telepathy, clairvoyance and psychokenesis, extrasensory perception ect. Some results are very interesting. From what we can learn, in most cases it is unvoluntarily and inconsistent. But others are more precise and accurate.

In my opinion, the reason why the field of parapsychology is stagnant in our days is that we are using the material of today for studying the science of tomorrow. We don't know much of the brain and just start to get into it.

To me, saying that something complex cannot exist because it hasn't been proved yet to all of us doesn't make much sens.

Edited by sam_comm, 26 July 2013 - 01:33 AM.


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 02:27 AM

View Postscowl, on 25 July 2013 - 03:45 PM, said:

Set up a video camera. It will never happen again.
The weird thing was my husband and I were in bed and since all the kids left home and are married we were alone. I heard a glass breaking and thought something fell in the kitchen so I sent my husband down to check. Nothing out of the ordinary. So...I went to check and there was nothing in the kitchen so I looked in the family room. When I turned on the lights there was glass all over the floor. Seems the top part of my hurricane lamp along with the candle smashed to the floor. The candle holder was still on top of the shelf way in the back behind a potted plant and a row of trophies in front of the plant. I have no idea how that stupid thing flew OVER all the stuff in front to land on the ground. Hubby's answer?  The wind...or a mouse.  In the middle of winter my windows are closed and the only wind was coming from him and his silly explanation. Also that mouse had to be larger than a large rat to throw anything over the stuff in front. Mighty mouse maybe?  All I can say is it creeped me out and I slept with the lights on that night! The only other thing that happened was a clock on top of the bookshelf started ringing its alarm. It was a battery operated thing but it had no batteries in it.  Since then nothing.


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 02:51 AM

I notice the red box lacks shadows when being pulled out.

= CGI.

It is easier to claim it is paranormal than taking the hard route and find out what really happened.





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