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Gangs Have Increased By 40 % Since Obama


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#1    Big Bad Voodoo

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 11:23 AM

http://www.realclear...as_elected.html

Gangs have increased -- let me finish. Gangs have increased by 40 percent since this president was elected. There is no federal program to stop it. No one wants to have an honest conversation about it. And so you have a congressman whose own district is bleeding, who puts on a hoodie as a symbolic act, but he doesn't do anything about the gangs in his own district.

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 11:34 AM

No one can stop gangs because they always bounce back, though gang violence is down from lets say the 80's or the 90's


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 12:04 PM

just a quick question: Why is this in the European Forum?

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 12:06 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 26 July 2013 - 12:04 PM, said:

just a quick question: Why is this in the European Forum?

Mistake.

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 12:54 PM

View Postthe L, on 26 July 2013 - 12:06 PM, said:

Mistake.
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Posted 26 July 2013 - 12:57 PM

View PostStill Waters, on 26 July 2013 - 12:54 PM, said:

Thread Moved

Merci.

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 01:19 PM

View Postthe L, on 26 July 2013 - 11:23 AM, said:

http://www.realclear...as_elected.html

Gangs have increased -- let me finish. Gangs have increased by 40 percent since this president was elected. There is no federal program to stop it. No one wants to have an honest conversation about it. And so you have a congressman whose own district is bleeding, who puts on a hoodie as a symbolic act, but he doesn't do anything about the gangs in his own district.

No, if you want to have an honest conversation about the epidemic of gang violence, you get labeled "racist"....


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 01:40 PM

Nah, it's not gangs, it's the po-lice that are shootin' all these kids. So says the Black community and State representatives.

These are probably the same people who believe HIV was a CIA invention, White people were created by a mad scientist to be a race of devils, and O.J. was innocent.

Whaddya gonna do?


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 05:23 PM

The PTB can't be bothered with gangs. They have people like George Zimmerman to worry about.... I guess.

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 06:43 PM

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Everything that sucks has increased by 40% under Obama.

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 07:51 PM

This is "newt" spewing unsubstantiated gibberish.

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 08:58 PM

View Postninjadude, on 26 July 2013 - 07:51 PM, said:

This is "newt" spewing unsubstantiated gibberish.

Don't dodge the issue. Honestly, I have no idea what newt says is true but his overall point is clear. All these people are in such an uproar over one, dare I say typical, legal case of self defense in Florida. Nothing extraordinary about it yet it's a rolling bandwagon of rage. So, Newt says something to that effect and asks about gang violence in Rush's own backyard. Rush responds to say let Chicago handle its own problems. Fair enough but if it's ok for a nation, including Rush, to be in uproar over one little case of self defense and doing all they can to make their spectacle over it displayed on national news outlets then surely it's ok for those outside Chicago to ask one little question about the violence there that is 500 times as deadly each year as the Zimmerman case. Oh oh what's that? He's having a national summit on urban violence that was planned before the Zimmerman trial. Ohh ok, so Rush is on top of it then. I don't think so. Has he been having these summits a lot? If so they're not working. If no, the violence is nothing new so why hasn't he taken such steps before? He's dodging a much more important issue. I said it's fair for him to say Chicago will take care of its own violence problem but the big thing wrong there is that it hasn't, it isn't and it won't. He has been there since 1993 and quite obviously can't do his job. So until he can do his own job at home he should shut the hell up about one minor problem 1000 miles away that he doesn't have any clue about. That ninja is the point.

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:05 PM

View PostF3SS, on 26 July 2013 - 06:43 PM, said:

Everything that sucks has increased by 40% under Obama.

And everything that didn't suck, sucks a little bit now.

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 10:12 PM

Politifacts broke it down and found it to be only half true based on the fact the numbers were estimates of estimates, not hard statistics.

http://www.politifac...sed-40-percent/
"Gingrich deserves credit for using statistics from a credible federal agency, but it’s important to note that methodological difficulties make it hard for anyone, even the FBI, to determine how many gang members there are in the United States. Criminologists express skepticism about whether gang membership could have jumped 40 percent in just two years, saying that broader crime statistics don’t show any sign of it."

"Contrary to Gingrich’s claim that "there is no federal program to stop" gangs, the Justice Department does have an Organized Crime and Gang Section, which was established under Obama in late 2010 as a consolidation of several existing offices.
However, while federal funding and technical assistance can help, Fox said that "there’s relatively little that the president can do to discourage a 12-year-old from joining a gang."


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 10:20 PM

View Postdarkmoonlady, on 26 July 2013 - 10:12 PM, said:

Politifacts broke it down and found it to be only half true based on the fact the numbers were estimates of estimates, not hard statistics.

http://www.politifac...sed-40-percent/
"Gingrich deserves credit for using statistics from a credible federal agency, but it’s important to note that methodological difficulties make it hard for anyone, even the FBI, to determine how many gang members there are in the United States. Criminologists express skepticism about whether gang membership could have jumped 40 percent in just two years, saying that broader crime statistics don’t show any sign of it."

"Contrary to Gingrich’s claim that "there is no federal program to stop" gangs, the Justice Department does have an Organized Crime and Gang Section, which was established under Obama in late 2010 as a consolidation of several existing offices.
However, while federal funding and technical assistance can help, Fox said that "there’s relatively little that the president can do to discourage a 12-year-old from joining a gang."

Well, Politifact is funded by the Annenberg Foundation which is focused on "Environmental Stewardship and Social Justice."

This tells me that nothing on politifact can be trusted since they are funded by a radical left-wing source.





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