„To remain ignorant of things that happened before you were born is to remain a child.“
Since I dont wont that you remain children…
In this thread I want to show evidence about knowledge before knowledge. Particulary about disocvery of continents. Often we hear how Columbus discover America yet we know that he did not. Also we often hear about Piri Reis map. In this thread I will show that Piri Reis map and Viking discovery of America are just use as kind of mislead when we discuss about ancient knowledge.
I often remeber story about Russian explorer Semyon Ivanovich Dezhnyov (1605 – 1673) who discover Bering Strait in 1648, 80 years before Vitus Bering did. He sailed from the Kolyma River on the Arctic Ocean to the Anadyr River on the Pacific. Yet we all know Bering strait as Bering not Dezhnyov strait.
In 1448 Portugees Bartolomeu Dias reached Indian Ocean and in 1442 Christopher Columbus reach America. Those voyages are potrayed as beging of Age of discovery.
In 1505 Nicolay de Caveri drawn ,now known as Caverio Map. Caverio map shows North America from Florida to Hudson river. Yet first people that set foot on North america were Ponce de Leon in 1512, Vasco Nunez de Baloba in 1513 ,Giovanni da Verrazzano in 1523, Lucas da Ayllon in 1529, Esteban Gomez in 1525.
Martin Waldseemüller map from 1507 is first map to use the name "America". 5 years before Ponce de Leon came in America.
Christopher Columbus was born in Republic of Genoa and perhaps he had knowledge about America not by Inuits who allegedly he met in Scotland but by Venetians who had Marco Polo map of Alaska. Also Columbus discovery was nothing special not because Vikings, or Polo(?) or Inuits or perhaps Polynesians and Arab contact. People knew about America before him. Its because when Ottomans rise and Pax Mongolica ended Europeans search for new way to far east. In 1448 Portugees Bartolomeu Dias reached Indian Ocean and in 1442 Christopher Columbus reach America. In that light Bartolomeu acomplished his goal and not just that. He find new way and traveled greater distance then Columbus. (Ofcourse when we ignore Phonecians). As Columbus greatest discovery I would say is his contact with Mayans on canou.
Nicolo Zeno from Venice in 1558 published Zeno map-map of North Atlantic. According to Zeno, map dates from 1390s when Zeno brothers under Prince Zichmini reached north America. Historians look on this map as hoax since there is many non existing Islands such as Frisland. On Frisland Zeno brothers spent some time according to letters he also find with map. Frisland island also exist on Gerardus Mercator map. Mercator was famous cartographer who first use term Atlas for collection of maps and new projection of straight lines/sailing courses. Before Mercator we used portolan charts which are navigational maps based on compass directions and estimated distances observed by the pilots at sea. The oldest extant portolan is the Carta Pisana c. 1296. Also cartographer Angelino Dulcert produced a portolan in 1339.
Edited by the L, 26 July 2013 - 09:15 PM.