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#1    glorybebe

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 03:56 AM

 The United States wants its police officers to be exempt from Canadian law if they agree to take part in a highly touted cross-border policing initiative, says an internal RCMP memo.The debate over whose laws would apply to U.S. officers working in Canada raises important questions of sovereignty and police accountability, says the briefing note prepared for RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson.“Canadians would likely have serious concerns with cross-designated officers from the U.S. not being accountable for their actions in Canada,” the note says.

http://www.theprovin...html?rel=838332

Yeah, you think?  I have a big problem with this.

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 04:47 AM

It won't happen. Or rather, 'it shouldn't happen'.

That said, with the 'Harper Government', who knows?


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Posted 31 July 2013 - 06:11 AM

View PostLikely Guy, on 31 July 2013 - 04:47 AM, said:

It won't happen. Or rather, 'it shouldn't happen'.

That said, with the 'Harper Government', who knows?

I sure hope it doesn't.  I can't believe they would even put that forward as a condition.

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 10:43 AM

American Military Police serving in foreign countries still have to follow local laws - civilian cops should have to do the same... If a conflict of laws arises let the state department sort it out out...


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Posted 31 July 2013 - 11:28 AM

View Postglorybebe, on 31 July 2013 - 03:56 AM, said:

 The United States wants its police officers to be exempt from Canadian law if they agree to take part in a highly touted cross-border policing initiative, says an internal RCMP memo.The debate over whose laws would apply to U.S. officers working in Canada raises important questions of sovereignty and police accountability, says the briefing note prepared for RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson.“Canadians would likely have serious concerns with cross-designated officers from the U.S. not being accountable for their actions in Canada,” the note says.

http://www.theprovin...html?rel=838332

Yeah, you think?  I have a big problem with this.

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 01:29 PM

Huh. I think that when in Canada, Canadian law should rule. U.S. cops should not go work in Canada if they can't hang with the laws of the land.


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Posted 31 July 2013 - 01:36 PM

View PostTaun, on 31 July 2013 - 10:43 AM, said:

American Military Police serving in foreign countries still have to follow local laws - civilian cops should have to do the same... If a conflict of laws arises let the state department sort it out out...

american civilan cops don't follow american laws, in usa, do you think the'll give a hoot about canadian????
don't let it happen canadians, for your own sake. just ask iraqis how well blackwater did, they were not accountable, and exempt from iraqi laws as well.

Edited by aztek, 31 July 2013 - 02:04 PM.

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:17 PM

View Postaztek, on 31 July 2013 - 01:36 PM, said:

american civilan cops don't follow american laws, in usa, do you think the'll give a hoot about canadian????
don't let it happen canadians, for your own sake. just ask iraqis how well blackwater did, they were not accountable, and exempt from iraqi laws as well.

The difference is: If they don't follow Canadian law in Canada they are very likely to be held accountable, cop or not.

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:26 PM

lower your dose of mind numbing medication, and look around, american gvmnt workers, commit crimes all over the world and get off. very few ever get to go to jail.
wheather it is balckwater in iraq, cia in pak, or union carbide in india, they all get off. and if for some reason cia\fbi, or any other branch am. contractor would kick the crap out of you, or ran you over with a car, in greece they would get off too.

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:28 PM

View Postaztek, on 31 July 2013 - 02:26 PM, said:

lower your dose of mind numbing medication, and look around, american gvmnt workers, commit crimes all over the world and get off. very few ever get to go to jail.
wheather it is balckwater in iraq, cia in pak, or union carbide in india, they all get off. and if for some reason cia\fbi, or any other branch am. contractor would kick the crap out of you, or ran you over with a car, in greece they would get off too.

I knew a few that wound up in a German jail. Not too many around Greece so I could not tell. They came out and said that jail was not bad at all... no worse that civilian quarters on base.

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:37 PM

You can find quite a lot of US soldiers in Korean prisons, for instance.


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Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:41 PM

have you been to those jails? seen them yourself? or have credible links to translate "quite a lot" into numbers?

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:42 PM

As soon as they cross the boarder they are subject to Canadian Law. If they break it they go to jail.

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:42 PM

Do you have proof they get away with everything?


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Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:42 PM

View PostRafterman, on 31 July 2013 - 11:28 AM, said:

Scared they're going to go all gansta in a Tim Hortons?

Being cops that's most likely where they'll end up

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