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#1    docyabut2


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Posted 01 August 2013 - 11:07 AM

Turkish archaeologists say they have found a stone chest in a 1,350-year-old church that appears to contain a relic venerated as a piece of Jesus' cross.


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Posted 01 August 2013 - 11:31 AM

More tourists = more money :yes:

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 08:45 PM

View Postdocyabut2, on 01 August 2013 - 11:07 AM, said:

Turkish archaeologists say they have found a stone chest in a 1,350-year-old church that appears to contain a relic venerated as a piece of Jesus' cross.


...and if you believe this, I have a bridge not far from my house I can sell you, dirt cheap.


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Posted 01 August 2013 - 09:17 PM

It's all based on the "story" that Constantine's mother, Helena, actually found "the real cross" that Jesus was crucified on.  I have never believed that story.  First off, her pilgrimage was 300 or so years after the fact.  Second, you have to remember that at the time of the crucifixion, Jesus was just another person to be executed to the Romans...they would not have done anything special with the cross to preserve it.  They probably crucified many more on the same cross...or maybe just burned it.

Helena was trying to fortify the new religion of the empire.  Sensationalism works.

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 09:18 PM

Looked like a piece of stone to me.

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 10:37 PM

If they put together all the bits of wood that have been claimed as part of the True Cross, they'd have enough wood to build a life-size model of Manhattan and all its skyscrapers.  The church building itself may be interesting, but I'm very sceptical regarding relics.

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 09:09 PM

That little stone is supposed to be the Chest? Maybe some kind of relicquary? The video said it could have the bone of a saint, or a piece of the True Cross.... So apparently they don't actually know if there is anything in the stone at all. Even if there was something in it. Bits of wood had been collected and saved as pieces of the Holy Cross for centuries before this church was built. Nothing amazing here, I am afraid....

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 11:22 AM

View PostJeremiah65, on 01 August 2013 - 09:17 PM, said:

Helena was trying to fortify the new religion of the empire.  Sensationalism works.

Works on TV news ratings as well.

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 02:12 PM

I thoroughly believe and have evidence that it was Brians cross.................and his wife !

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 02:19 PM

I wish I had all the pieces of Jesus cross that have been claimed over the years.
In that case, I could open a lumber yard.

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 09:39 PM

View PostUgly1, on 01 August 2013 - 09:18 PM, said:

Looked like a piece of stone to me.
exactly How are they so sure that this is THE cross that he was crucified on, I mean that seems like a huge assumption they jumped to



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Posted 05 August 2013 - 11:23 PM

I think the cross J.C was crucified on would have been used before and after him many many times, remember these so called relics were a nice little money earner for the church

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 07:40 AM

View Postdocyabut2, on 01 August 2013 - 11:07 AM, said:

Turkish archaeologists say they have found a stone chest in a 1,350-year-old church that appears to contain a relic venerated as a piece of Jesus' cross.


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Posted 10 August 2013 - 03:11 AM

I've quoted this before, but I won't hesistate to quote it again, such is my admiration for Twain:


But isn't this relic matter a little overdone? We find a piece of the true cross in every old church we go into, and some of the nails that held it together. I would not like to be positive, but I think we have seen as much as a keg of these nails. Then there is the crown of thorns; they have part of one in Sainte Chapelle, in Paris, and part of one also in Notre Dame. And as for bones of St. Denis, I feel certain we have seen enough of them to duplicate him if necessary.
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Posted 10 August 2013 - 11:44 AM

Well, with all the pieces of the True Cross around we could build a cathedral and with all the nails we can build at least a car!

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