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#1    Big Bad Voodoo

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 07:10 PM

Can God create rock too heavy for even him to lift?

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 07:58 PM

I think someone already made a topic about this same exact thing.

Yep:

http://www.unexplain...95&hl=rock&st=0

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 08:05 PM

Why is this a common question? I've seen it so much but know the history of it.. must be biblical.

I'd say: no

He could probably lift that rock too....

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 08:11 PM

Then he is not allmighty if he cant create that heavy rock.

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 02:11 AM

Can that which is logical do the illogical? If it did do the illogical could it still be called logical? Answer that and you have your answer here.

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 02:16 AM

View PostParanoid Android, on 02 August 2013 - 02:11 AM, said:

Can that which is logical do the illogical? If it did do the illogical could it still be called logical? Answer that and you have your answer here.

Religionists should answer this.

Funnily, I asked a very similar question to my religion teacher way back then in second grade and had her stumped totally. I also thought of most of the other standard atheist/religionist arguments that always come up in discussion of the type of Lane Craig vs. Sam Harris, or the other typical actors, way back then.

These go through EXACTLY the same thoughts that I had as a kid, only of course they use much more fancy names for then. So, afaic, they are still stuck in the same unanswerable conundrum, and nobody really knows anything.

And now, as then, the conclusion is that religionists intellectually just don´t have a leg to stand on.

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 02:50 AM

That's a ridiculous question that no amount of back and forth will ever answer. But if God is real and the Bible is too that means God created the entire Earth in six days. Rivers, oceans, mountains and gigantic rocks in the desert. I'd say he can do anything imaginable.
The Incredible Hulk can lift a mountain. So why not?

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 04:10 AM

Great discussion of the Omnipotence Paradox and possible answers here:

http://en.wikipedia....potence_paradox


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Posted 02 August 2013 - 04:22 AM

I think I answered it quite well in the discussion that Mystic Crusader linked. It's all a matter of order of operations. Once you find the correct order of operations you will realize that it is a yes.


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Posted 02 August 2013 - 04:22 AM

A universal Creator and his abilities must of necessity originate outside the confines of this universe whereas a rock, regardless of size, originates within the confines of this universe. So no, he couldn't create a rock that he can't lift, IMO.

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 04:29 AM

View PostF3SS, on 02 August 2013 - 02:50 AM, said:

The Incredible Hulk can lift a mountain. So why not?

Did you read the question?
Try again.

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 04:31 AM

View PostHugh, on 02 August 2013 - 04:10 AM, said:

Great discussion of the Omnipotence Paradox and possible answers here:

http://en.wikipedia....potence_paradox

Ha, I knew it had a name. (Like all the others that I already figured out of a kid, like what they now call the "god of the gap", the "argument from ignorance", the "morality argument" etc.)

LOL, really they are all running around and repeating the same thing over and over.

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 04:50 AM

If Jesus is God, the Romans did make a cross too heavy for him to lift.


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Posted 02 August 2013 - 04:55 AM

The OP created this thread, out of a dozen in one day. And couldn't give a rat's ass what your response is.


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Posted 02 August 2013 - 08:06 AM

View PostLikely Guy, on 02 August 2013 - 04:55 AM, said:

The OP created this thread, out of a dozen in one day. And couldn't give a rat's ass what your response is.

That is your malicious interpretation due other factors, like one simple, that we dont agree over threads. Please stay on topic and dont made this personal. I read every one post in this thread. Point of discussion is not that you respond on every post in it. But to hear others thoughts aswell. I will not respond on your future irrelvant posts.

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