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Genetic 'Adam' and 'Eve' Uncovered


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#1    Big Bad Voodoo

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 07:55 PM

Almost every man alive can trace his origins to one man who lived about 135,000 years ago, new research suggests. And that ancient man likely shared the planet with the mother of all women.

http://www.livescien...-uncovered.html

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Posted 03 August 2013 - 11:58 AM

Wow.  I never knew Eve was so good-looking.  (only saying)


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Posted 03 August 2013 - 12:58 PM

The Bible Bashers are going to like this one.


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Posted 03 August 2013 - 01:03 PM

So the population of Earth is a bunch of inbred motha****as. Sweet! So we're all bruvvaz.

"Almost every man alive can trace his origins to one man who lived about 135,000 years ago, new research suggests."

I'm interested in the exact reason for that "almost". Who's excluded?


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Posted 03 August 2013 - 01:24 PM

"Almost" is used because this is all theoretical, and it's physically impossible to prove that everyone is related to this hypothetical person (that would require a DNA test of most men on the planet). This study was only to gauge an estimate of the most recent possible common ancestor.


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Posted 03 August 2013 - 02:36 PM

Almost as for rhesus positive blood. As for the O- is not.


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Posted 03 August 2013 - 03:06 PM

Ahem, ...and from where did that one single man come from?
Oh, I got it, from a test tube baby, manufactured by an visiting alien !


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Posted 03 August 2013 - 03:14 PM

View PostHartmut, on 03 August 2013 - 03:06 PM, said:

Ahem, ...and from where did that one single man come from?
Oh, I got it, from a test tube baby, manufactured by an visiting alien !
From his mother and father. It's just that this man would have been the one that most modern people trace their lineage back to, the others died out.

It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
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Posted 03 August 2013 - 04:14 PM

So there was only 2 people on the planet 135000 yrs ago.Total BS.


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Posted 03 August 2013 - 05:18 PM

View Postspud the mackem, on 03 August 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

So there was only 2 people on the planet 135000 yrs ago.Total BS.
Like it says in the article, all modern men descend from the same common ancestor. That doesn't mean there were only two, just that it was these two ancestors that we can trace ourselves back to. There were other people around then as well, but their genetic lines died out.

It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
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Posted 03 August 2013 - 05:23 PM

I think we have to stick to what we have. Evidences. Not what might be is some alternative univerese.

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Posted 03 August 2013 - 05:40 PM

these are just theories. No one knows for sure. I for one prefer if they would concentrate on solving issues in our present rather than wasting time speculating about the past.


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Posted 03 August 2013 - 05:49 PM

View Postspud the mackem, on 03 August 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

So there was only 2 people on the planet 135000 yrs ago.Total BS.

When science push water on your mill its science. When not...its BS. I understand.

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Posted 03 August 2013 - 06:14 PM

View Postminera, on 03 August 2013 - 05:40 PM, said:

these are just theories. No one knows for sure. I for one prefer if they would concentrate on solving issues in our present rather than wasting time speculating about the past.
Actually this not speculation, but results of genetic research. And if we only focused on trying to solve our problems we'd never get anywhere. Many solution to problems come from unexpected sources, while some problems are aimply part of the human condition and cannot be solved, only managed.
  never really understand this point of view. I doubt you want the Eiffel tower torn down and it's metal re-purposed, or the statue of Liberty scrapped and recycled. These studies tell us of our history and origins. By thee nature of it, it tells us something of the human condition.
And is anyone still under the impression that this means there were onlh two people around at the time? That is not actually the implications of this study.

Edited by ShadowSot, 03 August 2013 - 06:42 PM.

It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
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Posted 03 August 2013 - 06:38 PM

View Postspud the mackem, on 03 August 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

So there was only 2 people on the planet 135000 yrs ago.Total BS.

'Tis true!  They weren't called Adam & Eve though.  Fred and Wilma Flintstone were their names, according to my sources.  God later created Barney and Betty Rubble from some spare ribs to keep them company.  And the rest is history.





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