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#16    Celumnaz

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Posted 19 October 2004 - 04:50 PM

QUOTE(vimjams @ Oct 19 2004, 11:19 AM)
There speaks the voice of a true ally.

BRITISH TROOPS OUT OF IRAQ


There speaks the voice of a true ally. ha. Briton for the Brits?

QUOTE(chico del nacho @ Oct 19 2004, 11:32 AM)
*sniff* such a message of tolerance just warms my heart...


lol no kidding. Moving British troops out is sooo humanitarian.  Leaving a vacancy in Iraq is such a great idea.

QUOTE(vimjams @ Oct 19 2004, 12:05 PM)
twpdyp...You are far from being tolerant. I think you fail to notice intolerence in your rhetoric of utter contempt for foreign nationals.


And you for truth, freedom, justice... hmmm, quite like some select foreign nationals... but not all of them.
Are you claiming to be unbiased?  Or even well informed by the solialist media?  Because your rhetoric would belie those claims.

QUOTE(vimjams @ Oct 19 2004, 12:05 PM)
As for being the 'Big Brother' of the world...Don't flatter yourself. Most of the hotspots you are referring to have been the direct result of US interference and/or exploitation...But don't concern yourself with that.


That's a huge subject, that's why I think it'd be a GREAT idea to create a timeline from WW1 to present.  Include all policy, all major happenings, maybe 3 parallel timelines, one just for social actions to compare what was happening and why.  You'll find when you look at it comprehensively you've been duped. .... But I guess you don't concern yourself with that.

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No more foreign aid of any kind, be it finiancial, humanitarian, military or any other aid.


'God bless America'...To give in such an unconditional way.


Well that's another problem with liberalism.  You give, trying to help, then they start to expect it, and then complain to you that you're not doing enough.  Pretty soon you start to feel like you're getting the rug pulled out from under you and at some point have to recognize leeches as leeches or be drained of your own resources.  Do you like helping people that spit in your face?  We do it anyway, but come on, it gets old real quick when there's not even a weak 'thanks'.  Oh yeah, we do evil things according to the elite media pumped into your skulls, it's our fault.

QUOTE(vimjams @ Oct 19 2004, 12:05 PM)
The trouble with some Americans is that they actually believe in their 'Hollywood' hype.


Oh yeah, you've got your finger of the pulse of America.  Yep.  They 'Hollywood' hype you're referring to is liberalism, and yes for too long it's been believed by the 'artists' and uneducated here.  A Majority got tired of it.  BBC echos CNN echos al-jazeera echos CBS, we know exactly what you're hearing cause it's regurgitated dutifully here in the states.  But, what the world doesn't have is free press, and ours just attacked itself and told the people "you're right, we have been lying to you for years".  The world media hasn't had that happen yet, if it ever will.

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The rest of the world can mind their own business and let us haggle it out amoungst ourselves.


We would gladly if the facts were as you claim..."None of our business"


Would you like for right wing Americans to covertly campaign in your country to affect who your leader is?

I keep getting pointed at and called ignorant.  Lets make that timeline, put the facts all on the table.  I'm sick of the spin and sick of us being the world's fall guy.  Wishful thinking though.  The socialists would never want such facts or such a timeline to exsist.

Oh yeah, and that's my opinion.  I don't speak for all Americans like you do for all Brits.


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Posted 19 October 2004 - 05:03 PM

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Oh yeah, and that's my opinion. I don't speak for all Americans like you do for all Brits.


For the record....he's not speaking on my behalf.

He does have a point in saying "what happens in America affects the rest of the world". I do agree with you though, in that, it is YOUR election. No-one elses. But remember this. If you all decide to elect the wrong man, it is the rest of the world that will pay the price.

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Posted 19 October 2004 - 05:14 PM

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He does have a point in saying "what happens in America affects the rest of the world". I do agree with you though, in that, it is YOUR election. No-one elses. But remember this. If you all decide to elect the wrong man, it is the rest of the world that will pay the price.

In your expert opinion who is the wrong man, I almost could take the last part of that as a threat.........Well it is obvious to anyone who has read any of my posts that I am an ultra right wing conservative christian. So having said that I will also say George W. Bush is the leader we need now.

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Posted 19 October 2004 - 05:24 PM

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In your expert opinion who is the wrong man, I almost could take the last part of that as a threat.........


Oh, I'm no expert but from what I've seen of him to date he's a bumbling idiot.

He, in my opinion, is not only ignorant of the rest of the world but also dangerous to the point of recklessness.

But like I say, it's YOUR election, you decide.



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Posted 19 October 2004 - 05:26 PM

Thank-You gollum we will on November 2nd...

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Posted 19 October 2004 - 05:27 PM

oh go read the Communist Manifesto  tongue.gif


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Posted 19 October 2004 - 05:29 PM

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oh go read the Communist Manifesto


I've read it word for word.......full of idealogical sh*t in my opinion. tongue.gif

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Posted 19 October 2004 - 05:30 PM

hehe good form:)


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Posted 19 October 2004 - 05:35 PM


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Oh yeah, and that's my opinion. I don't speak for all Americans like you do for all Brits.


Oh dear...Here we go again!
I am not speaking for Britain but simply expressing my personal opinions in response to the post by 'twpdyp'.

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Would you like for right wing Americans to covertly campaign in your country to affect who your leader is?


I don't think the article in the Guardian newspaper is a 'covert' operation to alter the outcome of your US elections...Do you honestly believe it is?
And as for US interference in British election campaigns...Um, let's talk about Ronnie Reagan and Maggie Thatcher and the out-right attempts to undermine the then British Labour party during the 1980's...Or maybe you'd like to discuss with Australians about the interference of the CIA in their elections.

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Moving British troops out is sooo humanitarian. Leaving a vacancy in Iraq is such a great idea.


I would have liked it if British troops never went to Iraq...I would also like to see them removed right now. But it isn't going to happen...I know that and I am stuck with it. I don't have to like it or agree with this situation...Ok

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And you for truth, freedom, justice... hmmm, quite like some select foreign nationals... but not all of them.
Are you claiming to be unbiased? Or even well informed by the solialist media? Because your rhetoric would belie those claims.


I don't really understand what your point is here...Apart from trying to deflect from remarks all ready said. To answer you question...No I am not 'unbiased' (is anybody) but the word is 'intolerance' and, no I am not intolerant of other races...I'm just argumentative and sometimes a pain in the arse.

I note that you have avoided twpdyp's comments about bombs in London and my subsequent reply concerning IRA funding.

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Posted 19 October 2004 - 05:40 PM


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I am an ultra right wing conservative christian.


What!...Like those guys who dress-up in army surplus and roam around the country side waiting fot society to collapse? laugh.gif

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Posted 19 October 2004 - 05:41 PM

At this time, I would like to remind everyone to remain civil...I do not want this discussion to spiral into a flurry of personal attacks(As I would be willing to put money on it happening sooner rather than later), an ridiculous accusations.

Kids, don't make me turn this forum around and go straight home; I'll do it.

(That is my pre-emptive action in this region, based on the intelligence available to me at this time. Any mistakes on my behalf in regards to intelligence analysis are the direct fault of anyone but me.)

Too many people on both sides of the spectrum have fallen into this mentality that a full one half of the country are the enemy for having different beliefs...in a country based on freedom of expression. It is this infighting that allows the focus to be taken away from "we the people" being able to watch, and have control over government corruption and ineptitude that is running rampant in our leadership.

People should be working towards fixing problems, not creating them.

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Posted 19 October 2004 - 05:46 PM

LOL   Not hardly, they are refered to as survivilists. No I am just a hard working, blue collar, Christian, who believes the Bible is true and correct. I have very conservative views on politics, child rearing, social interaction, same sex marriage, and abortion. See I am not much different than you. And as for waiting for the world to end that will happen when the good Lord decides it is time. In the mean time I am just doing what I have to to get by and support my family.

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Posted 19 October 2004 - 05:51 PM

That pic brings a big smile to my face twpdyp, rock on man.


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Posted 19 October 2004 - 06:00 PM

Thank-You Celumnaz he is the youngest of 4 boys, he is now 5 months old.

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Posted 19 October 2004 - 06:02 PM

FluffyBunny
I believe the worst is over, sorry it got a little heated.


As we go through this life reaching, striving, and straining for life's brass ring, has any of us ever stopped to wonder just who is running the Merry-Go-Round?
You must play the hand that life deals you, if you dealt the hand to yourself you must play that hand silently .




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