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NSA is giving your phone records to the DEA


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#136    aztek

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 09:57 AM

View PostSkepticalB, on 08 August 2013 - 10:36 PM, said:

So would you rather not have the state attempting to protect from terrorism?  

yes, their attempts fail, starting from 911, ending with Boston, and failed 34st bombing in between, the only reason it failed it cuz the guy cold not do it right, not cuz anyone stopped it before.
was it thousands of cops that found Boston bomber, after locking down entire city or two??? no, they failed at that too. but they sure were happy to search ppl on the street.

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 08:35 PM

you'll find that a cute saying at the end of something does little to convince anybody to change their mindset.

They did find the bombers of course.

as for the boston thing itself, it was done by two american citizens who weren't all that good at what they were trying to do.

I'm talking big picture here, having someone in place like the NSA is better than just letting things go unwatched.



Why wouldn't they search people on the streets?

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 08:37 PM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 09 August 2013 - 06:42 AM, said:

i don't know if you haven't been listening to what I've been saying, but that is what i've been saying, that they should be concentrating on that rather than diverting time & effort just snitching on people for anything they may have done that may have broken the law.

If they come across someone breaking the law, and pass it along, I don't see a problem with it.

how many man hours could it take to shoot an email to the DEA offices saying "hey, came across this, thought you'd appreciate it, bring the fruitcake to the christmas party"

Stop being frightened. You only see a monster because they want you to see monsters everywhere. They've conditioned you to look for monsters in every shadow, every coat hung on every door. As long as we keep seeing monsters, we'll continue to need protection and that's how other people get to control our lives.


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 09:05 PM

View PostSkepticalB, on 09 August 2013 - 08:37 PM, said:

If they come across someone breaking the law, and pass it along, I don't see a problem with it.


The problem is that it's against the Constitution, and American citizens rights...

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 11:17 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 06 August 2013 - 08:55 PM, said:

I disagree.  If I kill somebody and get away with it, I have committed a felony, and that makes me a felon.  Or do you hold otherwise?

My old Webster's says "One who has perpetrated a felony."

I can't believe people are arguing over such a simple meaning of words.  Perhaps it's because they would rather not deal with the fact that half the federal government is comprised of UNconvicted felons.

Unconvicted (Not really a proper word) = being in jail, awaiting trial or a jury verdict, but not having been found guilty yet.

Convicted = prisoner in prison, you know, doing hard time. That's when you become a felon.

Although you may find some sources that say unconvicted, I think they are using the term incorrectly.

Why is it that when I type unconvicted here, I get a red squiggly line underneath it?

To me unconvicted would mean one without conviction.

Just my opinion........

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 01:44 AM

View PostKowalski, on 09 August 2013 - 09:05 PM, said:

The problem is that it's against the Constitution, and American citizens rights...

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The constitution was written over 200 years ago.  As a species we either adapt or we die, countries are the same

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 04:46 AM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 09 August 2013 - 06:42 AM, said:

i don't know if you haven't been listening to what I've been saying, but that is what i've been saying, that they should be concentrating on that rather than diverting time & effort just snitching on people for anything they may have done that may have broken the law.

It's not limited to terrorists. They spy on all kinds of *possible* criminals. Look at the articles on the alphabet agencies communicating with one another. The feds pass intercepted information on to state and local authorities.

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