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# Ghost Equation

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### #181 markprice

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 01:44 PM

Leonardo, on 25 August 2013 - 09:19 AM, said:

There is no "the Planck". "Planck" is not an object, it is the name of a person that, to convey respect at his achievement(s), has been added to descriptors such as time, mass, etc to create a new 'family' of units applicable to equations regarding objects and phenomena on the smallest possible scale.

Exactly what I pointed out^. Your problem with planck acceleration was in the way you stated it which did not apply to the equation you were objecting to.

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To highlight my point, I was hoping you, or someone else posting here (and shame on you all for this), would pick up on the glaring, deliberate mistake I made in my previous post.

Oh I see, you make your mistakes on purpose, brilliant.

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Force is, of course, not a product of mass x speed, but a product of mass x acceleration. Force has a direction component, and speed does not convey direction while acceleration does.

In this thread Force was introduced to help define Impulse; you seem to be off on a tangent. But I can still use that; having stated that force is the value of the impulse required to change momentum, the direction component works with the concept of Will it helps define.

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The reason I was hoping you would pick this up, is to exhibit critical analysis. Critical analysis is essential when examining the merits of any claim, and must be applied without bias. If you cannot perform critical analysis, then you will never be able to determine wheter a claim has merit (may be true) or not.

The reason I was hoping others might pick up on this mistake, is it would indicate they are actually focussed on presenting an argument that might show you where you are going wrong (again, through critical analysis) rather than simply focus on attacking you because they believe you are wrong.

It's pretty much futile to "hope others might pick up" anything around here. It's mostly just endless complaining about what they never bother grasp, so complaining about their own ignorance really.

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### #182 Leonardo

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 01:50 PM

It seems I should always heed my premonitions.

Thank you, Mark, for the opportunity to engage in this discussion, but I think it for the best if I was to leave things as they are. I wish you well in promoting your ideas.

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### #183 markprice

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 01:58 PM

JesseCuster, on 25 August 2013 - 03:06 AM, said:

So forget that question and ask the following question:

What are the SI units that consciousness is measured in?

What is required is a simple short answer identifying the SI units (e.g. meters per second per second is how acceleration is measured in SI units, Watts, or Joules per second is how power is measured in SI units, etc.

What are the base units for consciousness that you have claimed can be measured in SI units?  The longer you stall and refuse to answer the more we all know you don't know what you're talking about.

JesseCuster, on 25 August 2013 - 03:15 AM, said:

Ok, before we continue, can you confirm that, according to you, the basic unit of consciousness is the Planck mass, i.e. 2.176 * 10^-8 Kg.   That's a measure of mass.  Something that can be measured in pounds, ounces, grammes, kilograms, etc.

You are making the positive claim that consciousness can be measured in units like kilogrammes, pounds, ounces, grammes, centigrams, etc.?  Yes or no?

Now that we have one of the values in the  OP equation nailed down into something that can be measured in defined units like kilogrammes, how do you go about measuring consciousness in kilogrammes and how do we then forward onto the next units in the equation like soul, specific infinity, etc.?

Apparently you will never make it past post #82.

The equation, which I made a part of the OP equation to help with description, is transformed into planck units. I have not read the book yet but if you really want to understand what exactly is in those planck units I suggest you also read the book, or at least watch that short video which recommends the book. As you or I have no further information yet,  you have to just understand the equations theoretically, not with metrics or whatever.

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### #184 markprice

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 02:07 PM

Leonardo, on 25 August 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

It seems I should always heed my premonitions.

Thank you, Mark, for the opportunity to engage in this discussion, but I think it for the best if I was to leave things as they are. I wish you well in promoting your ideas.

Okay, for the record: planck acceleration in terms of what planck represents is indeed possible. So all I was saying is objection overruled.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 03:09 PM

I should add that Leonardo did inadvertently make a worthwhile contribution to the equation by the introduction of direction. Force being the value of the Impulse required to change momentum is incomplete as I+Q = W because the intent was left undefined. Impulse plus consciousness needs direction to imply intent as I did earlier.  So now it seems the equation is completed to my satisfaction.

Edited by Saru, 25 August 2013 - 07:51 PM.
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### #186 markprice

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 06:29 PM

JesseCuster, on 25 August 2013 - 03:06 AM, said:

So forget that question and ask the following question:

What are the SI units that consciousness is measured in?

Also, now that I think about it, if you really want the SI units without bothering to read the book, just figure the SI units into Einsteins initial equation E=MC squared then apply them to his secondary equation E= MQ squared. I'm not real interested in that but if you are still obsessed then go for it; I doubt you are capable because it may require some theoretical thinking on your part.

edit: and even if you can't do that any SI unit for mass would apply to both equations so technically SI units for energy are inherent in the ghost equation.

Edited by markprice, 25 August 2013 - 06:51 PM.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 07:25 PM

I googled it for you, Custer: (Loop quantum gravity, LQG)

More precisely, space can be viewed as an extremely fine fabric or network "woven" of finite loops. These networks of loops are called spin networks. The evolution of a spin network over time is called a spin foam. The predicted size of this structure is the Planck length, which is approximately 10−35 meters. According to the theory, there is no meaning to distance at scales smaller than the Planck scale. Therefore, LQG predicts that not just matter, but also space itself has an atomic structure.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 07:31 PM

Also, you can wear it as a hat.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 07:36 PM

SkepticalB, on 25 August 2013 - 07:31 PM, said:

Also, you can wear it as a hat.

Right, and that covers the quantum gravity action in your brain which is measured in meters = consciousness.

Edited by markprice, 25 August 2013 - 07:39 PM.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 07:52 PM

Once again, enough with the derogatory personal remarks please.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 07:55 PM

markprice, on 25 August 2013 - 07:36 PM, said:

Right, and that covers the quantum gravity action in your brain which is measured in meters = consciousness.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 07:59 PM

SkepticalB, on 25 August 2013 - 07:55 PM, said:

What, you don't believe in quantum foam?

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 08:05 PM

I don't believe or disbelieve in it.  it's a theory at best.  Whether its actual or not, science will eventually decide

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 08:27 PM

can we just close or leave this thread, it's going no where and every one is just getting frustrated

It is easier to claim it is paranormal than taking the hard route and find out what really happened.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 08:29 PM

I'm torn, there is entertainment value to be found.  But it is getting very rude, and I hate rudeness

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