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#91    skookum

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 11:29 AM

Lots of people are picking these two pics out on forums.

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You can see why the Irish family thought it was Gerry.  You have to admit they do look alike.

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 12:04 PM

View PostCuriousLittleOne, on 15 October 2013 - 07:41 AM, said:

they have had over 300 calls to crimewatch since they relesed the efit, but to be honest, this man looks like every white, genertic bloke in england.

Oh, that's great about those calls!

View Postskookum, on 15 October 2013 - 07:55 AM, said:

The Irish family, the Smith's originally Identified Gerry McCann as the man carrying the child.  They never had a clear description of the man carrying the child but it twigged with them later the when they saw the McCann's getting off the plane in the UK.  They recognised the way the man moved and carried the child.

I don't think It's possible that it was the father who the witnesses saw carrying a child toward the beach.

Edited by regi, 15 October 2013 - 12:08 PM.


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Posted 15 October 2013 - 12:26 PM

View Postregi, on 15 October 2013 - 12:04 PM, said:

Oh, that's great about those calls!



I don't think It's possible that it was the father who the witnesses saw carrying a child toward the beach.

I haven't really followed the minute details of this case, but wasn't he abscent from the restaurant just prior to 10pm, for about half an hour, according the the restaurant staff? (or am I thinking of something else...)

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 01:09 PM

View PostSky Scanner, on 15 October 2013 - 12:26 PM, said:

I haven't really followed the minute details of this case, but wasn't he abscent from the restaurant just prior to 10pm, for about half an hour, according the the restaurant staff? (or am I thinking of something else...)

I haven't followed this case, either- apart from reading the recent news stories, but it's established that the father made his last check shortly after 9pm.
Considering 10pm sighting, there would then have to be a continued absence after that time period...


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Posted 15 October 2013 - 04:40 PM

Weasling? Sorry, I don't understand. Simply posting something that 'provoked thoughts' in my mind - nome of which was CONCRETE proof of what happened. Hence the wording of my post.

Cheers.

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 05:01 PM

View Postskookum, on 15 October 2013 - 07:55 AM, said:

Hardly the breaking new evidence now is it?

This was never an easy case for any investigators and these current investigators have had to come into the case years later and start at square one.
The program wasn't so much an update as it was an appeal to the public for information re: specific people and events at specific times and places.

Who can say? Before their work is done, I wouldn't find it surprising if these current investigators end up having also solved those burglary cases.
They've already noted the similarity in all the cases as to how it's believed the perp entered/exited.
Regardless, they're following the evidence...they're following leads...they have new tips coming in and I find it refreshing, and indeed, exciting!


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Posted 15 October 2013 - 06:31 PM

Well it now looks like the original 'bundleman' has now been solved.  The guy seen carrying the child by one of the Tapas 7 has been found and eliminated.  He even could pose in the clothes he wore 6 years ago and kept his childs pyjamas.  Not sure where he has been not to see this before but there you go.  That is one sighting eliminated.

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http://www.dailymail...ey-suspect.html

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 11:50 AM

View Postskookum, on 15 October 2013 - 06:31 PM, said:

He even could pose in the clothes he wore 6 years ago and kept his childs pyjamas.

The program said he was dressed in the same kind of clothes he wore on holiday, not the same clothes.
I don't know if those were the same pj's.


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 12:56 PM

the crimewatch reconstruction

http://www.bbc.co.uk...rammes/p01jqssz

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 05:50 PM

View Postregi, on 16 October 2013 - 11:50 AM, said:

The program said he was dressed in the same kind of clothes he wore on holiday, not the same clothes.
I don't know if those were the same pj's.

If you follow the Tapas 7 Jane Tanner description he went from this.

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To this

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then this

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With face pixeled out which one of her descriptions could it have been?

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id30.html

Edited by skookum, 16 October 2013 - 05:51 PM.

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 06:22 PM

View Postskookum, on 16 October 2013 - 05:50 PM, said:

If you follow the Tapas 7 Jane Tanner description he went from this.

I'm confident that Tanner recalled to the best of her ability.
Indeed. Her recollection shows to have been accurate.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 03:47 PM

View Postregi, on 16 October 2013 - 06:22 PM, said:

I'm confident that Tanner recalled to the best of her ability.
Indeed. Her recollection shows to have been accurate.

Sorry to come back to you regi but you seem level headed.  What do you make of this statement by the Gaspers who were friends of both the McCann's and Dr Payne of Tapas 7.  Came across it in the files and it was shocking reading, apparently it happened on another group holiday in Majorca.

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One night, when we were on holiday, the adults, in other words, the couples that I mentioned were on a patio outside the house where we were staying. We had been eating and drinking.
I was sitting between Dave and Gerry whom I believe were both talking about Madeleine. I don't remember the conversation in its entirety, but it seemed they were discussing a possible scenario. I remember Dave telling Gerry something like ?she?, referring to Madeleine, ?would do this?.
When he mentioned ?this?, Dave was sucking on one of his fingers, pushing it in and out of his mouth, whilst with the other hand he circled his nipple, with a circulating movement over his clothes. This was done in a provocative manner there being an explicit insinuation in relation to what he was saying and doing.
I remember that I was shocked at this, and looked at Gerry, and also at Dave, to see their reactions. I looked around (page 4) to see ?did anyone else hear this, or was it just me?. There was a nervous silence noted in the conversations of all the others and immediately afterwards everyone began talking again.
I never spoke to anyone about this, but I always felt that it was something very strange and that it wasn't something that should be done or said.
Apart from this, I remember that Dave did the same thing once again. When I refer to this, I want to mention again that it was during a conversation, in which he was talking about an imaginary situation, though I could not say precisely what it was about. I believe that he was talking about his own daughter, L., though I'm not certain. He slid one of his fingers in and out of his mouth, while the other hand drew a circle around his nipple in a provocative and sexual manner. I believe that he was referring to the way that L., would behave or would do it.
I believe that he did this later on, during the holidays, but I cannot be sure. The only time, besides this one, that I was with Dave and Fiona was several weeks after the holidays, when Savio and I met up with Gerry, Kate, Dave and Fiona at a restaurant in Leicester.
I am absolutely certain that he said what he said and that he made the gestures I referred to, but that could have occurred in the restaurant in Leicester, even though (page five) I believe that it was later on, in Majorca. When I heard Dave saying and doing this a second time, I took it more seriously.
I remember thinking whether he looked at the girls in a different way from me or from the others. I imagined that maybe he had visited Internet sites related to small children. In short, I thought that he might be interested in child pornography on the internet.

During our holidays, I was more attentive at the bath times after hearing Dave saying that.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id236.html

Edited by skookum, 17 October 2013 - 04:10 PM.

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 05:03 PM

View Postskookum, on 17 October 2013 - 03:47 PM, said:

Sorry to come back to you regi but you seem level headed.

Thank you, Dear. :blush:
Thank you for your consideration of my thoughts. :yes:

View Postskookum, on 17 October 2013 - 03:47 PM, said:

What do you make of this statement by the Gaspers who were friends of both the McCann's and Dr Payne of Tapas 7.

In a nutshell, I don't find it credible.


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 05:31 PM

View Postskookum, on 15 October 2013 - 11:29 AM, said:


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You can see why the Irish family thought it was Gerry.  You have to admit they do look alike.

It does indeed look like Gerry. Have you been on the Mccann files website? It has all kinds of evidence such as a sniffer dog detecting that a corpse had been in the boot of a car they rented two weeks after they reported Maddie missing. I watched crimewatch on this case earlier this week. Heres my thoughts -

Burgulary - If a burgular gets caught in the act they dont abduct and murder a child. The reason is its only 1-2 years tops for burgulary not a life sentence so they dont have that much to lose if they get caught.

Paedophile - I dont buy the idea some paedophile has abducted, abused and murdered her. The reason being is criminals dont commit planned crimes on their own doorsteps they travel away to do it (to increase their chances of getting away with it). Paedophiles are opportunistic abductors and they dont go looking for their victims in the evening either (9pm - 10pm). The reason being is what young children are out at that time?

My theory is their female friend who went to stay with her sick child met up with Gerry on his first check for a bit of extra-martial shenanigans. Maddie has seen them, threatened to tell her mother, Gerry has cracked her one in the living room killing her (sniffer dog detected a corpse had been behind the chair). The body has been hidden somewhere and when they rented a car two weeks later he has put her in the boot without Katie knowing.

You can tell Katie is innocent from the crimewatch interview from her eye movements (neuro-lingustic programming) but its curious how Gerry keeps his gaze fixed straight ahead. Like he knows a psychologist with NLP training will be able to tell from his eye movements if he's lying.


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 08:31 PM

Another update -

Portuguese police have reopened their inquiry into the disappearance of British girl Madeleine McCann, the public prosecutor's office has said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...europe-24655826

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