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#1    darkmoonlady

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 10:30 PM

""Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.), a longtime member of the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology, recently brushed aside concern that the wildfires currently scorching across his state and causing millions of dollars of damage have anything to do with climate change. In fact, he told constituents at a town hall that "global warming is a total fraud," employed by liberals to "create global government.""

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How is it that people who apparently cannot seem to grasp science are on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology? Also why are they listening to Alex Jones?

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 10:38 PM

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 11:05 PM

View Postdarkmoonlady, on 12 August 2013 - 10:30 PM, said:



How is it that people who apparently cannot seem to grasp science are on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology?

Exactly what are your science credentials?  Or do you just blindly believe what men you will never meet write in books that you will never read?


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Posted 12 August 2013 - 11:54 PM

Watch Chasing Ice the documentary first, second my best friend is a science teacher with a degree in Environmental Studies, we talk often on global warming and I have seen the mountain of evidence that proves it is real. Secondly no one needs credentials to educate yourself on the subject, just read the information and it is quite clear.  To expect that someone on a committee would have a grasp of what that committee is about isn't too much to ask for either. Most other GOP leaders have admitted they get global warming is real, however a few ignorant, paranoid individuals want to grasp at conspiracy theories and that's fine but they certainly do not belong on a committee making decisions about science they apparently cannot or will not understand.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 12:26 AM

Whether or not the wildfires raging in the western U.S. or the periodic droughts in the eastern part of the country are indications of climate change, it's too early to tell.However the increasing speed at which the polar ice caps are melting is very strong evidence of Global Warming, which will in time precipitate Climate Change.No matter what your agenda is on this matter the science is easy to understand.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 12:55 AM

There is plenty of evidence of global warming, and the opposition to it is basically political.

I mainly blame the political left and especially the extremists of the environmental movement for the present denial movement seen on the right.  People like Al Gore made their careers and wealth out of exaggerating it and the Democrats regularly thump the most  fearsome predictions for votes.  Now we have a predictable reaction.  Global warming is seen as an excuse for government controls and socialism.  There are free-enterprise ways to tackle the problem too.

In the meantime the danger increases.


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Posted 13 August 2013 - 01:17 AM

The whole global warming fiasco makes me sick! Who gives a **** if the earth is warming or not? Seriously the whole conversation does nothing but create confusion, fear and anger. More and more "mainstream" or "accredited" or "published" or whatever quantifiable factor the believers insist one lives up to in order to have an opinion are coming out with convincing arguments and evidences that global warming in fact ISNT happening. Which does nothing but muddy the waters even more.

Shop locally, reduce, reuse, recycle and be conscientious in your everyday living and the problem will solve itself.....keep hating those with differing opinions, keep demanding outrageous legislation , or the lack of any regulation at all and the earth will die while we're all too busy yelling at each other to ACTUALLY do anything about it.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 01:20 AM

Why do the wildfires in the west have ANYTHING to do with global warming? Ever been to Palm Springs or Prescott, THEYRE IN THE FREAKING DESERT. Oh and its SUMMER in the desert where everything is hot and dry.....until monsoon season when the lightning from approaching storms causes a spark and poof you have fire.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 01:22 AM

Interesting rant.  The problem is that those few of us who have made changes in our lifestyle are too few and even if everybody did, it would not be enough.  The warming is going to happen; how much we don't know for sure although we have good estimates.  The main consequence is going to be the submergence of some major coastal populations.  This will tend to happen suddenly in storms so there will be lives lost.


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Posted 13 August 2013 - 01:28 AM

It has never been a question of whether or not global warming exists.  It quite obviously does.  The question is, is it anthropomorphic?  Man does effect his environment but to what degree does he really effect it?  Enough to change major cycles?  For us to think so is about as arrogant as Man thinking that the Earth was the center of the universe just a few hundred years ago.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 01:29 AM

View PostFrank Merton, on 13 August 2013 - 01:22 AM, said:

Interesting rant.  The problem is that those few of us who have made changes in our lifestyle are too few and even if everybody did, it would not be enough.  The warming is going to happen; how much we don't know for sure although we have good estimates.  The main consequence is going to be the submergence of some major coastal populations.  This will tend to happen suddenly in storms so there will be lives lost.

Even your post is open to and maybe even cause for debate:

Why do we know the warming is going to happen? Why do we know this is a bad thing if it does happen? If it does happen is it just a continuing re-balance from the little ice age?

When all of that can be avoided by (in my opinion) relabeling the conversation. Regardless of scientific veracity Global Warming as a term  is a lost cause

I guess all of that is what inspired my rant. Thanks

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 01:41 AM

I (as a science minded Conservative and Christian) do believe in Climate Change. But, I do also believe that the effects and impact so far is up to some debate. But, regardless we need to start doing something about it. It is not a discussion of if it is happening. It was happening anyway/already. What is needed is a discussion of how fast things will change and what we will do about it.

Personnally I feel that a major engineering work could easily put particles, or water, or some other substance/chemical into the upper atmosphere to counter the warming/change. Or, doing something to cool large stretches of ocean by one degree would also work. These are very workable solutions, but are just going to be monsterously expensive financially.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 02:03 AM

That the warming is anthropomorphic is a reasonable connection with the fact that CO2 levels are increasing and are lab demonstrated to be a potent greenhouse gas and that the only source of this CO2 is us.

I think flooding major cities and river deltas is a bad thing.


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Posted 13 August 2013 - 02:04 AM

He is probably getting tired of everything from hail to arson-based wildfires being blamed on AGW.


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Posted 13 August 2013 - 02:06 AM

The cheapest solution is to go nuclear, supplemented by solar and a little by the  other technologies that get so my hype.  CO2 extraction out of the air may be resorted to as an emergency measure if  the warming turns out to be worse than now expected.

Day to day events may have to do with global warming, but at this point only on the fringes.






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