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The U.S. in Bible Prophecy


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#1    AquilaChrysaetos

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 05:53 AM

Daniel 7:1-3 said:

In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon, Daniel had a dream, and visions passed through his mind as he was lying on his bed. He wrote down the substance of his dream. Daniel said: "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me were the four winds of heaven churning up the great sea. Four great beasts, each different from the others, came up out of the sea."

In Bible Prophecy, Beasts always represent Kingdoms or Nations, as referenced in Daniel 7:17.

Daniel 7:4 said:

"The first was like a Lion, and had wings of an Eagle. I watched until its wings were torn off and it was lifted from the ground so that it stood on two feet like a man, and the heart of a man was given to it."

Most everyone knows that the national symbol for Great Britain is the Lion, and the national symbol for America is the Eagle. However what's most striking about this passage is that the Eagle's wings that this prophetic Lion possesses are torn off from it. This sounds strikingly similar to the American Revolution, especially considering the U.S. was born from Great Britain. If you think about the American revolution and use the two Nation's Mascots in place of their names, then an 'Eagle was literally torn off from a Lion.'

Not only that, but in Revelation 12, the woman with the 12 stars over her head (twelve tribes of Judah) who gave birth to the messiah obviously represents the nation of Israel, yet in Revelation 12:14 she was given "the two great wings of an Eagle." The United States has always supported Israel, and was founded as a Christian Nation. It makes sense why Israel gains the two Eagle wings, if the two Eagle wings in Daniel are the U.S.

Daniel 7:5 said:

"And there before me was another beast, one that looked like a Bear. It was raised up on one of it's sides and it had three ribs in it's mouth between its teeth. It was told, 'Get up and eat your fill of flesh!'"

Many of you may also know that the symbol or mascot for Russia is the bear. I honestly don't know whether the rest of the above passage is relevant or not, nor if it is what it's significance would be. All I know is that Beasts in Bible Prophecy are directly mentioned as representing Nations or Kingdoms, and if Great Britain and the U.S. are described above this passage, then this passage most likely represents Russia.

Daniel 7:6 said:

"After that I looked and there before me was another beast, one that looked like a Leopard. And on its back were four wings like those of a bird. This beast had four heads, and it was given authority to rule."

The national symbol for Germany is the Leopard. If the Eagle wings on the Lion represent a revolution such as the American revolution, then the wings on the Leopard could easily represent the German revolution of WW I, and the Nazi Party Germany WW II. Notice these wings don't break off from the Leopard because these two revolutions don't break away from Germany. As for the four heads of the Leopard, once again I honestly don't know. However with this many connections, I'm absolutely sure this is Germany and hopefully some of you could help out in solving this piece of the puzzle with me.

The fourth Beast in Bible prophecy is describing the coming one world government of the antichrist which is obviously not here yet, however I may discuss this part in a separate thread.

I would also note that these four Nations mentioned above (Great Britain, The United States, Russia, and Germany) are not just any random collection of Nations today, but are quite possible the most notable four Nations of this century for being so deeply rich in worldwide history. Also this chapter (Daniel 7) is a deep description of end time prophecy, and if the U.S. is the Eagle's wings on the Nation of Israel (Rev. 12:14) then this gives even greater insight as to exactly how close we actually are to the end times.

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"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 06:33 AM

I dont wish to upset,but the U.S.A has only about 300 years of History in comparison with the other 3..When the Bible was written their wisest scholars hardly knew where Britain was,and Germany was known as Saxony,they cetainly had no idea the America existed,so maybe the animals you mention represented other nations nearer their homeland.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 06:42 AM

is not a creature with the body of a Lion and the wings of an Eagle a
Griffin? Might that have been what our colourful friend Daniel was thinking of?


"In legend, griffins not only mated for life, but if either partner died, then the other would continue the rest of its life alone, never to search for a new mate. The griffin was thus made an emblem of the Church's views on remarriage. A Hippogriff is a legendary creature, supposedly the offspring of a griffin and a mare. Being a union of a terrestrial beast and an aerial bird, it was seen in Christendom to be a symbol of Jesus, who was both human and divine. As such it can be found sculpted on some churches", I hear.

Edited by Colonel Rhuairidh, 17 August 2013 - 06:42 AM.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 07:02 AM

...christianity had some awkward pubescent years

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 07:32 AM

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 07:42 AM

And there's much of it in the Bible though....


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Posted 17 August 2013 - 12:26 PM

Thanks for the post, Aquila. Can you give us a source or reference for this idea that "the national symbol of Germany is a leopard?" That's a new one on me. German Imperial flags and banners and Nazi standards prominently featured an eagle. One German military tank was named "Leopard," that's all I know.

As for the rest, if you haven't read Hal Lindsay's 1970 book The Late, Great Planet Earth, your post is remarkably congruent with it. However, as you speak of world powers and/or influential nations, where do China, France, India and the Islamic nations (especially those with nuclear capacity, such as Pakistan) fit into the mix?

Lindsay made the intellectual error of 'speculative certainty' (or proceeded with too much certainty), thereby compromising his credibility. It's interesting to speculate what the ancient prophets may have meant, but to think we can gain definitive, unambiguous knowledge from them is quite another thing.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 01:54 PM

maybe it refers to the fall of Germans during the war not to the U.S. cause if they are the same eagle then the one flying and do the talking is the eagle refers to the U.S.


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Posted 17 August 2013 - 02:14 PM

View Postbassai26, on 17 August 2013 - 01:54 PM, said:

maybe it refers to the fall of Germans during the war not to the U.S. cause if they are the same eagle then the one flying and do the talking is the eagle refers to the U.S.

I'm wondering about the leopard.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 02:17 PM

View Postszentgyorgy, on 17 August 2013 - 12:26 PM, said:

Thanks for the post, Aquila. Can you give us a source or reference for this idea that "the national symbol of Germany is a leopard?" That's a new one on me. German Imperial flags and banners and Nazi standards prominently featured an eagle. One German military tank was named "Leopard," that's all I know.


Could just as well be Tiger or Panther. I think the Eagle was primarily the symbol of Germany and Prussia, it (or at least form of heraldic bird of prey) certainly featured on the Prussian flag, as well as being popular with AH & friends, of course. Napoleon too, in fact. In fact, it seems to have always been popular with militaristic nations.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 02:19 PM

* In fact, I've just found this which is quite interesting: http://en.wikipedia....ational_animals

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 02:19 PM

View Postszentgyorgy, on 17 August 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

I'm wondering about the leopard.
maybe one of the axis...


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Posted 17 August 2013 - 02:29 PM

View Postbassai26, on 17 August 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

maybe one of the axis...

Ah-hah! Iran, of course! Thanks, Colonel.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 03:53 PM

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United States has always supported Israel, and was founded as a Christian Nation.

Um...no it wasn't. It was founded as a nation with freedom of religion. ;)


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Posted 17 August 2013 - 04:01 PM

Interesting analysis. I don't know if this represents the US or not, but I do believe America will have a roll in the end times.





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