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#1    Big Bad Voodoo

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 09:00 PM

Remote view and space exploration

We need breaktrough in math to made breaktrough in physics. Maybe we need breaktrough in psychology and biology first to make a breaktrough in space exploration.

So, can Remote viewers see whats on Titan moon, for example?

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 06:17 PM

View PostBig Bad Voodoo, on 23 August 2013 - 09:00 PM, said:


So, can Remote viewers see whats on Titan moon, for example?

Yes they can. But the data is more reliably if it is done in a team of remote viewers.


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Posted 17 September 2013 - 07:18 PM

View Poststevemagegod, on 17 September 2013 - 06:17 PM, said:

Yes they can. But the data is more reliably if it is done in a team of remote viewers.

Why dont they find new earth then?

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 07:33 PM

Sorry, not to be argumentitive, but how is there any 'reliability' in remote viewing at all?


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Posted 17 September 2013 - 08:46 PM

View Postsupervike, on 17 September 2013 - 07:33 PM, said:

Sorry, not to be argumentitive, but how is there any 'reliability' in remote viewing at all?

But idea is great, isnt? :w00t: I mean if they are able to see far...why not?

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Edited by Big Bad Voodoo, 17 September 2013 - 08:46 PM.

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 11:40 AM

View PostBig Bad Voodoo, on 23 August 2013 - 09:00 PM, said:

Remote view and space exploration

We need breaktrough in math to made breaktrough in physics. Maybe we need breaktrough in psychology and biology first to make a breaktrough in space exploration.

So, can Remote viewers see whats on Titan moon, for example?

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I think it's exceedingly difficult. Human minds carry with them all sorts of contextual interpretations. While I believe consciousness has access to far off places, I don't think it can be translated with any real accuracy through a mind.

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 02:21 AM

View PostWhite Crane Feather, on 18 September 2013 - 11:40 AM, said:

I think it's exceedingly difficult. Human minds carry with them all sorts of contextual interpretations. While I believe consciousness has access to far off places, I don't think it can be translated with any real accuracy through a mind.

That's a problem I see, too, how to accurately translate what we're seeing into words with contamination from our own context, and then how can it be validated?


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Posted 22 September 2013 - 03:34 AM

That and the fact that the only fact about remote viewing is that it has never been proven. Should be easy to prove and document so it's a little fishy eh?

Until you know what it is and how it works, you can't have a very good discussion.

Don't you think NASA etc. would be all over this if they thought there was any substance in it? Would be a much cheaper alternative and fix all their budget woes if they could have a group of people telling them what's out there without having to leave earth.

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 03:07 PM

Well, the US government has poured a lot of money into research, and the Stanford Research Institute has dedicated years to its study and use.There seems to be some pretty credible evidence that this phenomena exists, but I'm guessing that there are problems with consistency & accuracy, as it's certainly not, at this point, an exact science. It makes me think of that movie, The Men Who Stared at Goats.


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:58 AM

View PostBeany, on 22 September 2013 - 03:07 PM, said:

the Stanford Research Institute has dedicated years to its study and use.

Any link to backed that claim?

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 01:59 PM

View PostBig Bad Voodoo, on 24 September 2013 - 11:58 AM, said:

Any link to backed that claim?

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I suppose I could go out and find some links, but this is pretty general knowledge for those interested in remote viewing. If you're interested, about 20 seconds on Google will get you a lot of websites; like anything dealing with psychic phenomena, though, you should consider the sources. The Stanford Research Institute is commonly known as SRI, which may be something you've heard heard referenced. I recommend starting with a search on SRI.


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 02:07 PM

View PostBeany, on 22 September 2013 - 02:21 AM, said:

That's a problem I see, too, how to accurately translate what we're seeing into words with contamination from our own context, and then how can it be validated?

I don't quite understand you.  What exactly would a remote viewer be viewing which couldn't be translated into words?  Wouldn't they be seeing things just as we see with our eyes around us?  Landscape or room, objects, etc.  How could that be contaminated?  

As for being validated, all that would require is a test subject who gives an honest answer about a view.  For example, what three things are sitting on top of my computer monitor?

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 10:41 PM

View PostJ. K., on 24 September 2013 - 02:07 PM, said:



I don't quite understand you.  What exactly would a remote viewer be viewing which couldn't be translated into words?  Wouldn't they be seeing things just as we see with our eyes around us?  Landscape or room, objects, etc.  How could that be contaminated?  

As for being validated, all that would require is a test subject who gives an honest answer about a view.  For example, what three things are sitting on top of my computer monitor?

It's precisely that one is not viewing with actual eyes or obtaining signals from light that creates problems. The viewer would be only using mind. This lends itself to difficulties. Our minds identify objects and create the image to be revignized. Changing the way inputs are received can muddy the waters when identifying what something is.

A fan blade might look like a skateboard. If it is possible to remote view with the clarity demanded by skeptics, it will take a tremendous amount of practice.

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 11:16 PM

Actually the (wisdom) of remote viewer is not REMOTE. Not deeper than any stupid man. Therefore it is not wisdom, it is foolishness. If they are wise , they will tell us the length breadth and high th of Allah merciful, and measure his forgiveness.

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 12:36 AM

View PostBeany, on 22 September 2013 - 03:07 PM, said:

Well, the US government has poured a lot of money into research, and the Stanford Research Institute has dedicated years to its study and use.There seems to be some pretty credible evidence that this phenomena exists, but I'm guessing that there are problems with consistency & accuracy, as it's certainly not, at this point, an exact science. It makes me think of that movie, The Men Who Stared at Goats.
'Problems' - being that they cannot get any results outside the realm of dumb luck, chance, expected probability etc.

Not an exact science!? You can't even show it is a credible thing. It's about as far from an exact science as you can get.

Edit: Quoted the wrong reply initially.

Edited by Timonthy, 28 September 2013 - 12:38 AM.

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