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#1    Reann

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 12:31 PM

Recently I've taken some interest into questioning "Dark Energy". Maybe  due to reading disagreements and the opinions of others,skeptics, blah-blah  or those who seem to be in denial  of a reality  which victims claim to have experienced the horrors of.

When I consider what has transpired in  the very far distant past of history, such as Mind Control, human sacrifice ect. I question why? Why  would anyone even do such a thing? What drove them to it? Where did the idea even come from?

Those who were of the elite status and those who were connected to their circle have done such horrific things to people they "ruled over" people who were less privileged in wealth , in fame ect.. . Though in our time "now" we read of cases where  victims have tried to come forward and give account to what they have  experienced , yet most of us question  the authenticity of it all, with doubt..
We read and hear of victims telling of the abuse they have encountered,such as the abuse of mind control and the abuse of what all is affiliated with it.

What is most disturbing is that individuals affiliated with  charitable organizations such as orphanages, children's hospitals ect...  have been exposed as hiding under the umbrella of charity though being truly "Dark in Nature" .
The U.K has had  victims come forward in hopes of  exposing the abuse and  crimes which seem to be a secret life amongst the circles of the elite,worldwide.Sort as it always was from looking through history.

In the end ,  those people are described as Satanist,Luciferians ,devil worshipers, whatever.I think it's deeper than that though, I think that what those people are is neither Luciferian or Satanist, but that they are of  their own ego,they feed on their own lust, of their own heart,creating a dark energy which is non existing. It is what reality is when there is a void within of all that we do in creating  love.

http://lifeinthemix....ND CONTROL.html
http://theconspiracy...com/posts/28155

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 01:04 PM

I'm pretty sure that isn't dark energy.


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Posted 24 August 2013 - 01:14 PM

I would argue that the reason mankind does the things we do is based on the beleif that acting selfish and having power over others is our best chance at survival, and in the old, like you've mentioned they were willing to go to greater lengths to ensure that with less subtlety.  Be it brainwashing, religions, sacrifices, etc.

That's not to say your idea doesn't have some validity.  I just don't think the concept of dark matter has anything to do with it.  But, peoples beliefs being based on lies they've believed from a non tangible entity...I couldn't dispute that concept.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 01:32 PM

View PostRlyeh, on 24 August 2013 - 01:04 PM, said:

I'm pretty sure that isn't dark energy.
What is it ? I utilize the term energy as in everything is of energy, our thoughts , our impulses ect ect...Like , as in what form of energy do you live on , feed on . I personally am attracted to love and compassion , that feeling is an energy, right?


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 01:57 PM

View PostSkepticalB, on 24 August 2013 - 01:14 PM, said:

I would argue that the reason mankind does the things we do is based on the beleif that acting selfish and having power over others is our best chance at survival, and in the old, like you've mentioned they were willing to go to greater lengths to ensure that with less subtlety.  Be it brainwashing, religions, sacrifices, etc.

That's not to say your idea doesn't have some validity.  I just don't think the concept of dark matter has anything to do with it.  But, peoples beliefs being based on lies they've believed from a non tangible entity...I couldn't dispute that concept.
But, are not all  we do , think , and feel consistent of energy or not? Does it not have any effect along the way ? For example, scientist have discovered that thoughts are energy . I'm not certain of how thoughts are measured in terms of energy as proof that they are energy. I think there is also something that has been determined in science as fact ,and that is that our minds or our subconscious minds actually read/communicate with one another while our conscious minds are not aware of it , which has given me thought in question of , if that's so , then what influences do we have on one another  , like that must effect us in a matter of feeling either down or happy at times, which is of energy. I think there is a lot we all don't know or understand about energy.
Have you ever encountered a feeling within  a room  or place that feels heavy ,dark, like of some sort of negative vibe or something, and not know why?
Anyway , the things I've read about are very disturbing. I think that it's not a religion or anti religion thing. I think people who feed off that are sick in mind.The disturbing thing though , is that many of them have always been of the same generation , for like well over 4 maybe 5 thousand years.
There is a woman , her name is I think Nancy Matthews. She has devoted her time to helping victims of abuse. I think she's located in the U.K. She once was an Olympic torch holder.I believe she said that there is over 4 million survivors she knows of .Military bases were or are also mentioned by most of these victims as well.I don't know , but from the stories of these people something is wrong, and has been going on for a very long time.
You mentioned survival ,. but it doesn't seem to relate to something needed to be, for those that are doing this to survive.


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 06:16 PM

I agree they don't need to do it to survive, but they may believe that what they're doing is important to their survival.

The idea that thoughts are energy is true in the sense that our thoughts are electrical impulses in the synapsees of our brains. But that would be electrical energy and dark matter is, we...dark energy and its highly unstable, to the point its effects aren't much due to it not lasting long.

As for walking into a place, I that would be due to a psychological effect, either hearing someone about that room, or it having qualities that remind you of a bad experience


The disturbing aspects of life are hard to comprehend, if this energy theory of yours helps you cope with it, I wouldn't begrudge you it.  I could be entirely wrong and you be the one on point.  Especially if its effective in dealing with things people go through

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 08:58 PM

View PostSkepticalB, on 25 August 2013 - 06:16 PM, said:

I agree they don't need to do it to survive, but they may believe that what they're doing is important to their survival.

The idea that thoughts are energy is true in the sense that our thoughts are electrical impulses in the synapsees of our brains. But that would be electrical energy and dark matter is, we...dark energy and its highly unstable, to the point its effects aren't much due to it not lasting long.

As for walking into a place, I that would be due to a psychological effect, either hearing someone about that room, or it having qualities that remind you of a bad experience


The disturbing aspects of life are hard to comprehend, if this energy theory of yours helps you cope with it, I wouldn't begrudge you it.  I could be entirely wrong and you be the one on point.  Especially if its effective in dealing with things people go through
Oh..Maybe? I can't exactly determine if that's factual or not. To even consider that  something so cruel and horrible is done out of importance for their existence.Seems like you've heard of this before, where as i just recently have .
Oh, I wasn't meaning dark matter. I don't know much about that.Some say dark matter  doesn't exist. What I'm referring to is energy in general. Like even atom are energy, right? they are why everything consist , right? yet an atom is not solid matter, have you even seen the inside of one? I don't think they're solid in form at all... Everything feels solid but if the atoms were to detach , nothing would be as it seems. Same as with energy , I think there's more to it  . And, I think some  have known all along , while they would never want others to know ,regarding the effects of  manipulating vibrational energy ....
There are various levels of techniques that result in various levels of results  that have effect on our minds without even knowing or sensing that we are purposely being programed every day.  All in all , everything is an energy, a vibrational energy that can be manipulated , either way.


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Posted 26 August 2013 - 02:37 AM

Agreed that everything is energy, kinetic, potential, chemical, etc etc

The basic concept of energy though is the ability to do work.  So, I don't feel like it holds much of an emotioanl thing as far as dark energy is considered.

Now if by dark energy tyou mena dark vibes? Well, I believe the psychological answer i used a bit ago is the way to go that way.

Atoms, by definition aren't solid, they're electrons, protons, neutrons, , and withing protons and neutrons are further broken down things, teh smallest known of which is  quark, electrons adn quarks being elemental particles, containing no other things.

SO at the base levels of matter is Quark, the smallest known form of matter,

And all matter is at th every least, potential energy


I feel like this went off the rails, but by god I feel a little smart at the moment so give this to me

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 12:19 PM



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:01 PM

Thanks for sharing that video Truthseeker 007. The Nazi's admit to utilizing horrific  mind control techniques  as well. I think soo many people just don't realize what people are and have been capable of doing throughout human existence.


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:17 PM

View PostSkepticalB, on 26 August 2013 - 02:37 AM, said:

Agreed that everything is energy, kinetic, potential, chemical, etc etc

The basic concept of energy though is the ability to do work.  So, I don't feel like it holds much of an emotional thing as far as dark energy is considered.

Now if by dark energy you mean dark vibes? Well, I believe the psychological answer i used a bit ago is the way to go that way.

Atoms, by definition aren't solid, they're electrons, protons, neutrons, , and withing protons and neutrons are further broken down things, teh smallest known of which is  quark, electrons adn quarks being elemental particles, containing no other things.

SO at the base levels of matter is Quark, the smallest known form of matter,

And all matter is at the very least, potential energy


I feel like this went off the rails, but by god I feel a little smart at the moment so give this to me
You got it !
Now as for atoms, they are that which what? forms everything, right? Everything has vibration, right? Vibration seems to be an energy too, no,yes?
Everything functions by means of vibration, everything. And it is atom that vibrate right? Though ,  vibrational frequency can be manipulated  to effect our thought, by means of emotion ,right? It's no secret and it's something that is done everyday, on many levels. Such as what we are told or taught to accept as truth, instead of questioning and thinking for ourselves. Seems to me , not many people have had an original thought . We all function according to what we are given to memorize in order to maybe succeed.
You mentioned electric in an early post, I was wondering though , can you explain what  exactly is electricity and how it works?


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 04:46 PM

electricity is the flow of electric charge, electric charge being a property of matter that causes it to experience a force when close to other electrically charged matter

Vibration would be kinetic energy.  The idea of vibrations affecting us on a emotional level is where I have issue with all this.  Everything emotionally can be taken back to psychology or a physical issue.  outside of new age medicine I've never heard claims of vibrations being used in anything like this.

It's an interesting theory, it just seems unfounded


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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:32 PM

View PostSkepticalB, on 27 August 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

electricity is the flow of electric charge, electric charge being a property of matter that causes it to experience a force when close to other electrically charged matter

Vibration would be kinetic energy.  The idea of vibrations affecting us on a emotional level is where I have issue with all this.  Everything emotionally can be taken back to psychology or a physical issue.  outside of new age medicine I've never heard claims of vibrations being used in anything like this.

It's an interesting theory, it just seems unfounded

Some try to link it to QM, our bodies are incapable of detecting that kind of vibration.


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Posted 28 August 2013 - 05:33 PM

jesus more Quantum Mechanics stuff?

Does every paranormal thign get linked to that now?

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 05:41 PM

View PostSkepticalB, on 28 August 2013 - 05:33 PM, said:

jesus more Quantum Mechanics stuff?

Does every paranormal thign get linked to that now?
It's the God of gaps for New Agers.

http://pseudoastro.w...-pseudoscience/

http://rationalwiki....iki/Quantum_woo





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