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#16    StarMountainKid

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 12:45 AM

Maybe we should ask what does this information consist of? If information is quantized as bits of information, what are these bits? Are they quantum events?

In a lecture on Youtube, Leonard Susskind says, all the information inside a black whole exists on the area of the event horizon measured in Planck units.

One thousand trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion Plank areas could fit on the surface of a proton.

So, are these the fundamental bits of information in the universe, and what this article is about?

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 06:40 AM

View PostStarMountainKid, on 31 August 2013 - 12:45 AM, said:

Maybe we should ask what does this information consist of? If information is quantized as bits of information, what are these bits? Are they quantum events?
According to the link I provided things like an electron's spin or a particle's position.

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So, are these the fundamental bits of information in the universe, and what this article is about?
The article is about confusing physical information with magical thinking.


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Posted 31 August 2013 - 02:22 PM

View PostSir Wearer of Hats, on 30 August 2013 - 10:20 PM, said:

money isn't real?
So how do you pay for your food?

*face palm*.   Think outside the box.


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Posted 31 August 2013 - 02:24 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 30 August 2013 - 10:56 PM, said:

He refuses to eat 'cause it is not "real" either?

Well it is a form of energy, this is the science forum isn't it?


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Posted 31 August 2013 - 02:25 PM

View Postdavid icke is right, on 31 August 2013 - 02:24 PM, said:

Well it is a form of energy, this is the science forum isn't it?

Well, information is certainly not energy.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 02:25 PM

View PostImaginarynumber1, on 31 August 2013 - 12:04 AM, said:

With love and creativity?

Wait... I'm not a dirty hippy. I have a real job.

And that real job is what?


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Posted 31 August 2013 - 04:51 PM

View Postdavid icke is right, on 31 August 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:



And that real job is what?

None of your business.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:11 PM

We think we know all about energy -- it is heat and motion and electromagnetism and matter and does work and all that, and we are told it is conserved but gains a thing called entropy which in effect means as we use it, it becomes less useful.

That really all does sound a lot like magic.  What I think has happened is that we have these physical phenomena that do things that we can predict, and we have given it a name, and all that fools us into thinking we know what it is.


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Posted 01 September 2013 - 01:26 AM

View Postdavid icke is right, on 31 August 2013 - 02:24 PM, said:

Well it is a form of energy, this is the science forum isn't it?
This is the science forum, but the story linked to in your original post is decidedly unscientific.

Examples: The author never explains why ``natural, uncooked foods'' and ``pure, filtered water'' are good. It is reasonable (from a logical perspective only) to suggest that ``natural'' things are good - but in that case why does natural water need to be filtered?

The author then goes on to say that ``junk food'' and wireless/cellular EM fields are bad. From a chemistry perspective, why is ``junk food'' bad? What makes the information content in its sugar molecules so different from that in, say, and apple's sugar molecules?

If ``good information'' is always good, and ``good food'' has sugar (or fat, or whatever), shouldn't foods that have an excessive amount of these things be even better? (People usually prefer to have some money, and would usually like to have more money.)

The article throws in the phrase ``pure energy spin'' and ``negative energy spin'' without bother to explain these terms, one can only assume the term ``spin'' was used to fool gullible readers into thinking the article has something to do with quantum mechanics - which it doesn't.

Finally, the article culminates with a ``unified theory'' which can be summarized as such: ``do things that are healthy, don't do things that are unhealthy''.

This is not a theory. There is absolutely no mechanism presented for theoretically deducing (without reference to common sense or life experience) whether interacting with something will be beneficial or detrimental to one's health.

This article is just a very brief description of a common-sense/conventional wisdom approach to health gussied up with some pseudoscientific terms.


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Posted 01 September 2013 - 01:33 AM

View PostImaginarynumber1, on 31 August 2013 - 04:51 PM, said:

None of your business.

HA, love that

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 06:59 PM

View PostImaginarynumber1, on 31 August 2013 - 04:51 PM, said:

None of your business.

Precisely, I don't believe in your business, corporation.  I want nothing to do with your control system. :tu:


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 07:24 PM

View PostSir Wearer of Hats, on 30 August 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

In the beginning there was data. That data had a function and that function begat a form.
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*winces* I am not sure what this says about me.. but when i read what you posted..  all i could think of and see in my mind was... Data...  and Captn Picard standing behind him with his hand on his shoulder..

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 07:32 PM

Well, the way I see it, information is what 'we' understand. I mean, we are looking at thins through our perspective, nothing we think of and have is 'real' then nothing you put here holds any real function.

ANy information we see or understand is based on US and what we comprehend, but if what we are and comprehend is not real...

then all postings by you.. Icke.. ourselves, is a lie.

or just not real, since lies are only what we percieve in the form or conciousness that we are in right now. how do you know that you are 'awake' or ;waking up from the false state of being all others are in? What if you are being 'fed' this, because we humans as we are NOW, need comic relief and you are being manipulated to play that role for us?

or visa versa.

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 07:35 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 31 August 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:

Well, information is certainly not energy.

I think you'll find that all energy is information.


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 09:18 PM

View Postdavid icke is right, on 02 September 2013 - 07:35 PM, said:

I think you'll find that all energy is information.
Does that mean anything or are you just huffing and puffing?





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