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Posted 30 August 2013 - 09:33 PM

  • John Kerry praises 'oldest ally' France for supporting attacks on Syria
  • President Obama makes coded swipe at the UK's decision not to join in
  • Parliament has refused to back British involvement in military action
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Posted 30 August 2013 - 09:36 PM

so they will be Freedom Haggis instead of British Haggis now?

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 09:43 PM

Glad you guys in Britain have the backbone and smarts to stay out of this mess. :tu:

Unfortunately, we agree with y'all, but our President and the war mongering idiots in Congress won't listen to the will of the people.


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Posted 30 August 2013 - 09:46 PM

It'll blow over with little in the way of a lasting problem between the 2 nations (imo). Suez, Grenada, Somalia, Vietnam, we've disagreed with each other over all those conflicts, and in those cases it was the Prime Minister of the day that opted out, where as in this case it was just political game playing that ended any involvement.

I'll be interested to see what happens if the US start making more direct digs though.....because Cameron has made it clear he won't be apologising to the US or anyone for not going in.....I wonder if his words will become more heated if he's pushed on that...

Edited by Sky Scanner, 30 August 2013 - 09:47 PM.


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Posted 30 August 2013 - 10:01 PM

History goes full circle. France was the midwife to the birth of America and is it's oldest friend and ally. Though I guess to really go around in a circle, Britain will have to cosy up to ye olde friend Prussia, or should that be das alte freunde in the ancient language of our royals.


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Posted 30 August 2013 - 10:04 PM

View PostKaa-Tzik, on 30 August 2013 - 10:01 PM, said:

History goes full circle. France was the midwife to the birth of America and is it's oldest friend and ally. Though I guess to really go around in a circle, Britain will have to cosy up to ye olde friend Prussia, or should that be das alte freunde in the ancient language of our royals.

Problem is that trick does not work anymore, the only time you can separate Germans and French nowadays is when the French want more money for social programs... besides Cameron did his best  to p*** off both in the last few years.

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 10:17 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 30 August 2013 - 10:04 PM, said:

Problem is that trick does not work anymore, the only time you can separate Germans and French nowadays is when the French want more money for social programs... besides Cameron did his best  to p*** off both in the last few years.
There is an image in my mind of Mitterand and Kohl holding hands at a WWII memorial ceremony in 1995, and then Kohl sobbing at Mitterands funeral. UK has no chance of getting between them. I can imagine similar scenes in a few years for the centenary of Verdun, with UK side-lined, even though it was part of the general offensive that included the Somme.


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Posted 30 August 2013 - 10:50 PM

Perhaps us Brits might just do what the US did on two previous occasions - join in at half-time!

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 11:01 PM

View Postealdwita, on 30 August 2013 - 10:50 PM, said:

Perhaps us Brits might just do what the US did on two previous occasions - join in at half-time!
Nah - better to stay well and truly clear of THIS train wreck.  No winners here. no way.  I support bombing the crap out of chem weapons sites and infrastructure.  Beyond that I think the Syrian situation is just unsolvable for outsiders.

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 11:06 PM

View Postand then, on 30 August 2013 - 11:01 PM, said:

Nah - better to stay well and truly clear of THIS train wreck.  No winners here. no way.  I support bombing the crap out of chem weapons sites and infrastructure.  Beyond that I think the Syrian situation is just unsolvable for outsiders.
Some "chemical target"  bombing in Sudan came back in form of the crashing Twin Towers... nothing gained there either.

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 11:12 PM

Why get pulled in and create a bigger mess,Obama should be concentrating on the Islamists and prevent them from getting a foot in the door.Al Queada would love to get their hands on chemical weapons.

Thankyou Obama for the big jump in Gas Prices,high Gas Prices will do the US economy no favours.

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 11:23 PM

View Postshaddow134, on 30 August 2013 - 11:12 PM, said:

Why get pulled in and create a bigger mess,Obama should be concentrating on the Islamists and prevent them from getting a foot in the door.Al Queada would love to get their hands on chemical weapons.

Thankyou Obama for the big jump in Gas Prices,high Gas Prices will do the US economy no favours.

Would that be Barack HUSSEIN Obama we're on about here?

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 11:27 PM

Whoever Saudi Arabia supports, that is the faction we should not support. Unfortunately all Western governments and institutions such as the BBC are  enslaved by the oil money.


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Posted 30 August 2013 - 11:32 PM

View Postealdwita, on 30 August 2013 - 11:23 PM, said:

Would that be Barack HUSSEIN Obama we're on about here?

He wasn't very popular here today.People are sick and tired of the constant meddling in the ME.It's long weekend here and people are paying through the nose for Gas.

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 11:36 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 30 August 2013 - 11:06 PM, said:

Some "chemical target"  bombing in Sudan came back in form of the crashing Twin Towers... nothing gained there either.
True enough, though I'd argue that had Clinton done much more at that time those towers just might be standing.  Regardless, this atrocity of 2 years in Syria is  ever worsening and if no line is drawn then Assad will continue ratcheting up his responses until he can beat down all challengers - can you imagine what might be next?  I think you know that evil really is like that.  It never stops on it's own - it must be fought.

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