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Posted 01 September 2013 - 12:23 PM

Under the proposals new cars would be fitted with cameras that could read road speed limit signs and automatically apply the brakes when this is exceeded.

Patrick McLoughlin, the Transport Secretary, is said to be opposed to the plans, which could also mean existing cars are sent to garages to be fitted with the speed limiters, preventing them from going over 70mph.

http://www.telegraph...d-limiters.html

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Posted 01 September 2013 - 12:48 PM

Yet another blatant attack by the EEC on peoples freedom and Liberty.

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Posted 01 September 2013 - 01:03 PM

View Postshaddow134, on 01 September 2013 - 12:48 PM, said:

Yet another blatant attack by the EEC on peoples freedom and Liberty.
Uh no this is too stop high speed crashes, you should not be speeding anyway


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Posted 01 September 2013 - 01:25 PM

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Uh no this is too stop high speed crashes, you should not be speeding anyway

No it's an attack on personal choice and freedom.

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Posted 01 September 2013 - 01:29 PM

View Postshaddow134, on 01 September 2013 - 01:25 PM, said:

No it's an attack on personal choice and freedom.
What benefit is there by speeding? if you are late for work or meeting or appointment and you are speeding then it is your fault because you should of planned your route better.


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Posted 01 September 2013 - 01:34 PM

View PostThe New Richard Nixon, on 01 September 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

What benefit is there by speeding? if you are late for work or meeting or appointment and you are speeding then it is your fault because you should of planned your route better.
Who said anything about Speeding.

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Posted 01 September 2013 - 01:40 PM

Terrible idea. Hopefully the powerful motor industry get this binned before it even starts.


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Posted 01 September 2013 - 01:40 PM

View Postshaddow134, on 01 September 2013 - 01:34 PM, said:

Who said anything about Speeding.
Under the proposals new cars would be fitted with cameras that could read road speed limit signs and automatically apply the brakes when this is exceeded.

Patrick McLoughlin, the Transport Secretary, is said to be opposed to the plans, which could also mean existing cars are sent to garages to be fitted with the speed limiters, preventing them from going over 70mph.

So to prevent Speeding


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Posted 01 September 2013 - 01:44 PM

View PostThe New Richard Nixon, on 01 September 2013 - 01:40 PM, said:

Under the proposals new cars would be fitted with cameras that could read road speed limit signs and automatically apply the brakes when this is exceeded.

Patrick McLoughlin, the Transport Secretary, is said to be opposed to the plans, which could also mean existing cars are sent to garages to be fitted with the speed limiters, preventing them from going over 70mph.

So to prevent Speeding

Preventing anyone in any circumstances going over 70 will undoubtedly cause deaths. If i'm in the middle lane doing a steady 70, car not far behind me in both the middle and 3rd lane, then someone pulls out in front of me from the first lane the least dangerous thing to do is to accelerate into the third lane thus avoiding heavy breaking and potential crashes.

Edited by Sky Scanner, 01 September 2013 - 01:44 PM.


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Posted 01 September 2013 - 01:46 PM

I'm pretty sure the Germans are going to love this,you can travel up to 120 mph on their Autobahns.

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Posted 01 September 2013 - 01:50 PM

View PostSky Scanner, on 01 September 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

Preventing anyone in any circumstances going over 70 will undoubtedly cause deaths. If i'm in the middle lane doing a steady 70, car not far behind me in both the middle and 3rd lane, then someone pulls out in front of me from the first lane the least dangerous thing to do is to accelerate into the third lane thus avoiding heavy breaking and potential crashes.
True bu that also depends on the persons reactions are, for all i know for argument sake you could be 80 and not have quick reactions to get away


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Posted 01 September 2013 - 01:50 PM

View PostSky Scanner, on 01 September 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

Preventing anyone in any circumstances going over 70 will undoubtedly cause deaths. If i'm in the middle lane doing a steady 70, car not far behind me in both the middle and 3rd lane, then someone pulls out in front of me from the first lane the least dangerous thing to do is to accelerate into the third lane thus avoiding heavy breaking and potential crashes.

Exactly...there are times when accelerating is the only way to avoid an accident.


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Posted 01 September 2013 - 01:55 PM

View PostThe New Richard Nixon, on 01 September 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

True bu that also depends on the persons reactions are, for all i know for argument sake you could be 80 and not have quick reactions to get away

It's more likely to be an 80yr old that pulls out from the first lane after coming up on a slow moving lorry, but pulling out at 55 or 60mph...that is going to have the knock on effect of making everyone else behind break heavy. If you accelerate into the 3rd lane, get passed him and then reduce back to 70 you have stopped a potential pile-up.


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Posted 01 September 2013 - 01:55 PM

View PostThe New Richard Nixon, on 01 September 2013 - 01:40 PM, said:

Under the proposals new cars would be fitted with cameras that could read road speed limit signs and automatically apply the brakes when this is exceeded.

Patrick McLoughlin, the Transport Secretary, is said to be opposed to the plans, which could also mean existing cars are sent to garages to be fitted with the speed limiters, preventing them from going over 70mph.

So to prevent Speeding

So he should,Law enforcement gets paid to prevent speeding.Speed cameras are installed to prevent speeding.

How much will it cost for motorists to have these devices installed ? Do you not think that Motorists pay enough already ? High gas prices and road Tax.


It is a blatant attack  by the EEC on personal choice and personal freedom.

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Posted 01 September 2013 - 02:10 PM

just to annoy Clarkson! I thoroughly approve. :D

View Postshaddow134, on 01 September 2013 - 01:25 PM, said:

No it's an attack on personal choice and freedom.
That kind of Freedom is merely a nuisance at best, and possibly a danger, to others. That really is a misuse of the word 'freedom'.

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