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#1    Still Waters

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 11:34 AM

Almost 14 billion years ago an incredible event took place. It was a giant explosion where everything began: matter, energy, time and even space itself. Our whole universe came into existence from a single point. What would it be like to live through the end of all that? It depends on whose theory you believe.

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 11:45 AM

Yes, if I was somewhere else when it happened.  God knows where though.


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 03:06 PM

hmmmmm

COME WITH ME. OVERWHELMING POWER AND MADNESS AWAIT

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 04:02 PM

I don't know about surviving the end of the universe but Dr. Lawrence Krauss is a proponent of the theory that the universe arose from nothing due to quantum fluctuation basically because "nothing" is unstable. If the universe keeps expanding to the point where everything including sub atomic particle disintegrate there will be nothing left. Since "nothing" is unstable perhaps quantum fluctuation could then start it all over again and maybe we'll all be back again


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 04:03 PM

Would it make my bus pass invalid?

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 04:59 PM

View Postspacecowboy342, on 02 September 2013 - 04:02 PM, said:

I don't know about surviving the end of the universe but Dr. Lawrence Krauss is a proponent of the theory that the universe arose from nothing due to quantum fluctuation basically because "nothing" is unstable. If the universe keeps expanding to the point where everything including sub atomic particle disintegrate there will be nothing left. Since "nothing" is unstable perhaps quantum fluctuation could then start it all over again and maybe we'll all be back again

" If the universe keeps expanding to the point where everything including sub atomic particle disintegrate there will be nothing left."   is  the  key .

the  big bang is  a singularity of  location ...  meaning  it  is  quite  small , much smaller than  you might  imagine .
action upon it comes  in  the  function/form  of  change which  is  so profound as  to be equaly  more  than  you can imagine ...
but  is   infinite energy acting  on a singularity of  local relationship  to itself  only  and of the  nature of  infinite space .

that  is  to say ,  its  rate  of  change is  only  measured  relitive to  the  infinite of  space .

the  expansion  phase  is  limited  to  the  period  when  time/ space  is  the  single  points  ratio  to  infinity / eternity   bound togather .

when  the   energy  begins  to  convert to  ratio's  of  location  relitive  to  each  local point ,  you have  the  formation  of  the  base  particles materials ...  that is  to  say....   the  singularity  grows  in  size   but  is  uniform in  consistancy...
when  single  places  that   are  not  the  same  place start happening ,  you get  the  super  subatomic   thingys...

do  not  imagine  that  it  is  hot during  the  big  bang ,  it  is  motion  that  is  happening not  heat .
also  do  not  think  of  it  as  an explosion ...   its  more  arrival  than  a departing .

so  what  you really have ...  is  energy  being  converted  into matter ...   or  locations...

and  that  happens  even  today ,  energy  is  being  changed  into  matter  and  location .

" If the universe keeps expanding to the point where everything including sub atomic particle disintegrate
there will be nothing left. "  is  kind of  correct....   no  energy  will  be  left ....  because  it  will  all  be  converted  in to   quantum  gravity ....  or  a field  effect  gravity  that  pulls  all  local  points  in to  a single  event location   ....
and  then  when  all  matter  in  the  universe  is  at  the  same  spot...    change  will  end .  

.... all  change  will  end....

time  is  change ,  so  time  will  end...   and  time / space  will  end...  

then  the  big bang  will   start  the  whole  thing  all over  again...  perfectly repeating  every  thing .
and  we  will  read these  words  again...   and  again....   and  again....   eternaly .


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 05:09 PM

View Postonereaderone, on 02 September 2013 - 04:59 PM, said:

" If the universe keeps expanding to the point where everything including sub atomic particle disintegrate there will be nothing left."   is  the  key .

the  big bang is  a singularity of  location ...  meaning  it  is  quite  small , much smaller than  you might  imagine .
action upon it comes  in  the  function/form  of  change which  is  so profound as  to be equaly  more  than  you can imagine ...
but  is   infinite energy acting  on a singularity of  local relationship  to itself  only  and of the  nature of  infinite space .

that  is  to say ,  its  rate  of  change is  only  measured  relitive to  the  infinite of  space .

the  expansion  phase  is  limited  to  the  period  when  time/ space  is  the  single  points  ratio  to  infinity / eternity   bound togather .

when  the   energy  begins  to  convert to  ratio's  of  location  relitive  to  each  local point ,  you have  the  formation  of  the  base  particles materials ...  that is  to  say....   the  singularity  grows  in  size   but  is  uniform in  consistancy...
when  single  places  that   are  not  the  same  place start happening ,  you get  the  super  subatomic   thingys...

do  not  imagine  that  it  is  hot during  the  big  bang ,  it  is  motion  that  is  happening not  heat .
also  do  not  think  of  it  as  an explosion ...   its  more  arrival  than  a departing .

so  what  you really have ...  is  energy  being  converted  into matter ...   or  locations...

and  that  happens  even  today ,  energy  is  being  changed  into  matter  and  location .

" If the universe keeps expanding to the point where everything including sub atomic particle disintegrate
there will be nothing left. "  is  kind of  correct....   no  energy  will  be  left ....  because  it  will  all  be  converted  in to   quantum  gravity ....  or  a field  effect  gravity  that  pulls  all  local  points  in to  a single  event location   ....
and  then  when  all  matter  in  the  universe  is  at  the  same  spot... change  will  end .  

.... all  change  will  end....

time  is  change ,  so  time  will  end...   and  time / space  will  end...  

then  the  big bang  will   start  the  whole  thing  all over  again...  perfectly repeating  every  thing .
and  we  will  read these  words  again...   and  again....   and  again....   eternaly .
Yeah, what he said


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 05:23 PM

Ooops ...   to  answer  your  question ....   all souls   are  with in the  pattern  of  order   at  the  big bangs  arrival .
no  soul  or  any   time/space  artifact  may survive  the  last  black  hole  or  the pattern of the  next  big bang   would  be  altered  and  a  new  pattern of order at  the  big bang  moment  would  arrive  from  the   infinitys  of  the  void  state  which  the  big  bang  comes  out  of .

that  is  to  say...   you can  listen  to a tape recording  of  a song   a billion  times  ....

but  if  you  record  the  song as  you  listen to it ...  distroy  the  master recording  ,  and  then   record  the  song as  you  listen to it...   and  then   distroy  the  master recording again  ,  and  then   record  the  song as  you  listen to it...   and  then distroy  the  master recording another  time ,  and  then   record  the  song as  you  listen to it...   and  then... well.... things  just  get  out of hand...    things  can  get  pretty  complex  and  messy...   real fast ...

you  won't  make  it  100 times...  and a  billions time  is  dreaming....   and  to  hear  that  song for an  eternity   is   beyond  even  a really good  imagination ....

...so....   nope ,  the  end  of  the  universe  is   pretty  much  a  reset  button...   and  no one  gets  out  of   this  space time  aware .


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 05:30 PM

View Postspacecowboy342, on 02 September 2013 - 04:02 PM, said:

I don't know about surviving the end of the universe but Dr. Lawrence Krauss is a proponent of the theory that the universe arose from nothing due to quantum fluctuation basically because "nothing" is unstable. If the universe keeps expanding to the point where everything including sub atomic particle disintegrate there will be nothing left. Since "nothing" is unstable perhaps quantum fluctuation could then start it all over again and maybe we'll all be back again
It may turn out that empty space contains an infinite amount of low-entropy energy (which would explain all the energy generated during Inflation), in which case even though the universe itself experiences heat death, life would be able to go on indefinitely.


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 06:26 PM

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say ...   no, i don't think so.

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 07:01 PM

View PostFrank Merton, on 02 September 2013 - 05:30 PM, said:

It may turn out that empty space contains an infinite amount of low-entropy energy (which would explain all the energy generated during Inflation), in which case even though the universe itself experiences heat death, life would be able to go on indefinitely.

entropy is  the  activity of  change   being  converted into  the  orderly  occupation  of  space ....    or....
high steam  heat  changes  to  lower water heat ....   the  water  being  more  dencity for  the  given  space .

conservation  of  energy  requires  that   no  energy   was  lost...    only  a change  of  motion  problem ...


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 07:08 PM

i  should  add  that   dark matter   and  dark energy    are   trans dimensional  interfacing  galaxy's...   where   only  one  of  the  two  interfacing  dimensions  are  either   eternity/time/energy.....  or ....  infinity / space/ matter... or ....    "ele" dimension ....  or  "psi"  dimension....  or  any  one  of  the  multitude  of  dimensions  that  your  philosophy  can  but  dream of .


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 08:33 PM

The universe is like a big bubble you can create another one


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 08:40 PM

View Postbruce fiction, on 02 September 2013 - 08:33 PM, said:

The universe is like a big bubble you can create another one
a VERY BIG bubble


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 09:13 PM

View Postonereaderone, on 02 September 2013 - 07:01 PM, said:

entropy is  the  activity of  change   being  converted into  the  orderly  occupation  of  space .... or....
high steam  heat  changes  to  lower water heat ....   the  water  being  more  dencity for  the  given  space .

conservation  of  energy  requires  that   no  energy   was  lost... only  a change  of  motion  problem ...
Are you just showing off your ignorance or do you have a point?   I don't see where your post has anything to do with anything.






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