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#1    Big Bad Voodoo

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 08:57 PM

http://www.cbsnews.c...sad-transcript/

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 12:32 AM

I made it to about the 4 minute mark and when the man started smiling while explaining that it's possible to kill 100's of thousands with conventional weapons I just couldn't watch it any more.  Smugness in a mass murderer is nauseating.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 02:04 AM

Not even one Allahu Akbar in 50 minutes?   Outrageous!

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 07:52 AM

View PostYamato, on 12 September 2013 - 02:04 AM, said:

Not even one Allahu Akbar in 50 minutes?   Outrageous!
glad to see people are flying in their true color
those who used to attack islam are now defending innocent muslims showing up their true compassion for victims
and those who used to pretend to defend it are the ones attacking it showing up their support to murderers

so pretty is the time of crisis because it make us reliaze what people are truely made of
very indeed we did benfit from this painful experince in syria
we came to realize true nature of people on both sides


Freedom For Syria !

Edited by Knight Of Shadows, 22 September 2013 - 07:54 AM.

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 10:19 AM

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Yeah...

freedom from Islamic jihadists....

I heard a report somewhere that it is thought they now comprise of 50% of the so-called rebels...

And just as predicted by anyone paying attention...the jihadists have turned against the other 'rebels'..

Only the Syrian Army has a chance of dealing with them...and that will still be very difficult.


https://medium.com/w...ng/7b44b10b748e


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Islamist rebels declare war on non-Islamist rebels, seize border town


On Sept. 12, Islamic rebels in Syria declared war … on their fellow rebels. Two Al Qaeda-linked extremist rebel groups—Al Nusrah and the Islamic State of Iraq and Al Sham, a.k.a. ISIS—followed up their declaration with an attack on the main Free Syrian Army.
The two-year-old Syrian civil war is now officially a three-way fight, pitting the regime of Pres. Bashar Al Assad versus the FSA versus the Islamists.


see link for more detail...


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Posted 22 September 2013 - 11:49 AM

View Postand then, on 12 September 2013 - 12:32 AM, said:

I made it to about the 4 minute mark and when the man started smiling while explaining that it's possible to kill 100's of thousands with conventional weapons I just couldn't watch it any more.  Smugness in a mass murderer is nauseating.

Fail.


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Posted 22 September 2013 - 12:33 PM

View PostPhaeton80, on 22 September 2013 - 11:49 AM, said:

Fail.
The point was right on the mark.


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Posted 22 September 2013 - 12:35 PM

As I understand it there are factions within the Syrian regime and Assad is not entirely his own man.


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Posted 22 September 2013 - 01:12 PM

View PostFrank Merton, on 22 September 2013 - 12:33 PM, said:

The point was right on the mark.

To ignore all of the content and simply label Assad's point regarding the hypocrisy of the chemical weapon outrage (while the main outraged party has themselves waged war after war, using depleted uranium, phosphor, agent orange and even dropping nuclear bombs on Japan while it was well known in US intelligence circles emperor Hirohito was willing to surrender) is utterly ridiculous and implies a stark disassociation from any form of objective reality.

This besides the fact ofcourse, the quote was placed in a highly tendentious and untruthfull manner. As if he was bragging he could kill just as many with conventional weaponry.

But your agreement with such nonsense is not unexpected. You two are truely kindred spirits.


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Posted 22 September 2013 - 03:30 PM

View PostPhaeton80, on 22 September 2013 - 01:12 PM, said:

To ignore all of the content and simply label Assad's point regarding the hypocrisy of the chemical weapon outrage (while the main outraged party has themselves waged war after war, using depleted uranium, phosphor, agent orange and even dropping nuclear bombs on Japan while it was well known in US intelligence circles emperor Hirohito was willing to surrender) is utterly ridiculous and implies a stark disassociation from any form of objective reality.

This besides the fact ofcourse, the quote was placed in a highly tendentious and untruthfull manner. As if he was bragging he could kill just as many with conventional weaponry.

But your agreement with such nonsense is not unexpected. You two are truely kindred spirits.
P, you seem to get incensed rather easily.  Does it really bother you that much when someone holds a divergent opinion from your own?  You seem to be saying that because the US has used means of warfare that you find heinous, Assad's killing (possibly) of children with a "human pesticide" is more acceptable.  Really?  Because one group acts in an offensive or even criminal manner, it ameliorates the guilt of others who do the same?

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 05:48 PM

View Postand then, on 22 September 2013 - 03:30 PM, said:

P, you seem to get incensed rather easily.  Does it really bother you that much when someone holds a divergent opinion from your own?  You seem to be saying that because the US has used means of warfare that you find heinous, Assad's killing (possibly) of children with a "human pesticide" is more acceptable.  Really?  Because one group acts in an offensive or even criminal manner, it ameliorates the guilt of others who do the same?

Thats not at all what I am saying, you know that very well.

And I assure you, you have not seen me incensed.


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Posted 23 September 2013 - 12:40 AM

View PostPhaeton80, on 22 September 2013 - 05:48 PM, said:

Thats not at all what I am saying, you know that very well.

And I assure you, you have not seen me incensed.
Okay I will accept that I don't understand - perhaps you could restate the point?  Because it seemed to me that you were minimizing his actions in this war.  In watching the video he DID smile and even laugh at bit while saying that one could kill thousands without gas.  Perhaps it was part of a larger point but considering the history of this conflict and the role of his military in it I think such a tic or gesture was in extremely poor taste.

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 06:49 AM

View PostPhaeton80, on 22 September 2013 - 01:12 PM, said:

To ignore all of the content and simply label Assad's point regarding the hypocrisy of the chemical weapon outrage (while the main outraged party has themselves waged war after war, using depleted uranium, phosphor, agent orange and even dropping nuclear bombs on Japan while it was well known in US intelligence circles emperor Hirohito was willing to surrender) is utterly ridiculous and implies a stark disassociation from any form of objective reality.

This besides the fact ofcourse, the quote was placed in a highly tendentious and untruthfull manner. As if he was bragging he could kill just as many with conventional weaponry.

But your agreement with such nonsense is not unexpected. You two are truely kindred spirits.

Depleted uranium is about as radioactive as sitting next to a box of bananas, while phosphorus is a terrible weapon to use on other people, but it isn't outlawed, and no worse then any other incendiary type of weapon used but it does have other uses just as producing smoke screens, and agent orange had some bad side effects, but that is a bit more of the government ignoring the manufacturer that the batches of agent orange to be used where contaminated with TCDD.

But by far the best is the last one about the US dropping bombs on Japan at the end of WW2 when Japan was willing to surrender.  First the US wanted unconditional surrender something that Japan, before dropping the atomic bombs, completely refused and was willing to continue fighting over.  Japan was willing to do a conditional surrender to the USA but I doubt you know what those conditions where.  Some of the conditions I can remember off the top of my head that Japan demanded was no trials against any Japanese commanders for war crimes, no foreign troops to be stationed in Japan, for Japan to be able to keep certain lands it has conquered, basically allowing Japan to keep anything that wasn't conquered from Europeans or Americans, and for Japan to be allowed to keep its military intact, along with letting the emperor remain emperor and face no charges.  When Japan did surrender after the dropping of the two atomic bombs, something that almost didn't happen since there was an attempted coup against the emperor by top Japanese generals in an attempt to stop his surrender, they accepted the demand for unconditional surrender mostly, they still demanded for the emperor to remain emperor and not to face charges and we accepted that.

Edited by DarkHunter, 23 September 2013 - 06:50 AM.


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Posted 23 September 2013 - 08:03 AM

In the interview Assad does smile, though it is obviously a weary sarcastic smile, not one of glee that he can kill 100,000 with conventional weapons. This interpretation is propaganda, and it is very tirseome, not least because it assumes none of us have too many brain cells. Assad smiles because he wonders why the fuss now over a few hundred deaths, when 100,000 deaths has been almost swept under the carpet. And more propaganda of course because this figure is made to seem as if they are all victims of Assad. I have to say that the propaganda on this site is very transparent and low grade, and I still wonder why calls for death go unremarked.

Edited by Kaa-Tzik, 23 September 2013 - 08:11 AM.


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Posted 23 September 2013 - 02:55 PM

View PostKaa-Tzik, on 23 September 2013 - 08:03 AM, said:

In the interview Assad does smile, though it is obviously a weary sarcastic smile, not one of glee that he can kill 100,000 with conventional weapons. This interpretation is propaganda, and it is very tirseome, not least because it assumes none of us have too many brain cells. Assad smiles because he wonders why the fuss now over a few hundred deaths, when 100,000 deaths has been almost swept under the carpet. And more propaganda of course because this figure is made to seem as if they are all victims of Assad. I have to say that the propaganda on this site is very transparent and low grade, and I still wonder why calls for death go unremarked.
Frankly KT I don't care who the Syrians choose to be their masters.  I care that someone there has used very effective, horrific chemical agents whose use was long ago stopped by world consensus.  In case you hadn't noticed, these situations never get better, only worse.  If these weapons are seen to be used effectively by one regime then others will be more sanguine about resorting to them.  Some here will call that statement fear mongering but I think one has to be simple minded to not see the truth of it.  Humans are capable of being savage in the extreme and if we ever step back from that and agree to refrain from such horrors then that effort should be preserved, not just allowed to return with a shrug of the collective shoulders by a weaker generation of people.

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“This is like playing poker with a guy who cheated you twice before. You know who does that, a moron.




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