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#1    ambelamba

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 03:36 AM

Faith can't move a mountain, no matter how great it is.

But it surely can bring down skyscrapers and kill everyone in them.

I should have realized much earlier.


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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:06 AM

View Postambelamba, on 12 September 2013 - 03:36 AM, said:

Faith can't move a mountain, no matter how great it is.

But it surely can bring down skyscrapers and kill everyone in them.

I should have realized much earlier.

Sucks doesn't it.

“Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.” - Blaise Pascal

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:14 AM

View PostMystic Crusader, on 12 September 2013 - 04:06 AM, said:

Sucks doesn't it.

Yes...

I do have a love/hate thing going on with mankind.


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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:15 AM

Faith is blind hence a long time walking around in the dark just being told what you want to hear.

Sittin back drinkin beer watchin the world take it's course.


The only thing god can't do is prove he exists ?

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:21 AM

I just drove into our closest major town (about 40 minutes drive). The highway went through mountains that had to be dug through at some point in our past. Many years ago, people with bulldozers, tip trucks, and other such equipment moved the mountain away and built a highway through it. Faith must have been used when deciding that a road between the north and south of our area would be necessary.

In short, faith did move this mountain and I daresay many other mountains in our world.

Edited by Paranoid Android, 12 September 2013 - 04:39 AM.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:26 AM

View PostParanoid Android, on 12 September 2013 - 04:21 AM, said:

I just drove into our closest major town (about 40 minutes drive). The highway went through mountains that had to be digg though at some point in our past. Many years ago, people with bulldozers, tip trucks, and other such equipment moved the mountain away and built a highway through it. Faith must have been used when deciding that a road between the north and south of our area would be necessary.

In short, faith did move this mountain and I daresay many other mountains in our world.

View PostParanoid Android, on 12 September 2013 - 04:21 AM, said:

I just drove into our closest major town (about 40 minutes drive). The highway went through mountains that had to be digg though at some point in our past. Many years ago, people with bulldozers, tip trucks, and other such equipment moved the mountain away and built a highway through it. Faith must have been used when deciding that a road between the north and south of our area would be necessary.

In short, faith did move this mountain and I daresay many other mountains in our world.


No the math to make that road made it possible. I drive through the rockie mountians 3 times a year ( rogers pass ) and it took enginnering not faith to make that possible. It does not take faith to belive in math nore science but trust in ones fellow mans inginuity and comptiance.

Edited by The Silver Thong, 12 September 2013 - 04:30 AM.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:34 AM

PA does make me believe that faith does have a very terrifying effect on human mind.

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Edited by Paranoid Android, 12 September 2013 - 04:45 AM.


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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:35 AM

People who despise faith have never been in enough need to accept it.  That changes in time.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:42 AM

View PostThe Silver Thong, on 12 September 2013 - 04:26 AM, said:




No the math to make that road made it possible. I drive through the rockie mountians 3 times a year ( rogers pass ) and it took enginnering not faith to make that possible. It does not take faith to belive in math nore science but trust in ones fellow mans inginuity and comptiance.
Ah, so it took no science or engineering to build planes and all that was needed for 9/11. I'm with you :yes:

Edited by Paranoid Android, 12 September 2013 - 04:49 AM.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:46 AM

View Postambelamba, on 12 September 2013 - 04:34 AM, said:

PA does make me believe that faith does have a very terrifying effect on human mind.

*snip*

Faith is weak as is gravity unless pushed to the extreme. UM has a good balance imo and PA is a good mod, we have srta known each other for years and we get each oth even though I don`t post as much

View Postand then, on 12 September 2013 - 04:35 AM, said:

People who despise faith have never been in enough need to accept it.  That changes in time.

Could you explain how one comes to need it.

Edited by Paranoid Android, 12 September 2013 - 04:48 AM.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:47 AM

View Postand then, on 12 September 2013 - 04:35 AM, said:

People who despise faith have never been in enough need to accept it.  That changes in time.

The only thing time has changed for faith in my life is the more times passes, the more I see it is unwarranted and destructive (the religious kind of faith).

Edited by Mystic Crusader, 12 September 2013 - 05:17 AM.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:51 AM

View PostParanoid Android, on 12 September 2013 - 04:42 AM, said:

Ah, so it took no science or engineering to build planes and AOL that was needed for 9/11. I'm with you :yes:

Science was the man made invention that faith used to kill man on that day and I believe the faith was in Allah and the after life. Sad but true or was it for money.

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The only thing time has changed for faith in my life is the more times passes, the more I see it is unwarranted and destructive (the religious kind of faith).

I have no idea why when I quote you it comes up twice, sorry about that.

Ok this posting thing is getting weird lol

Edited by The Silver Thong, 12 September 2013 - 04:52 AM.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:54 AM

View PostMystic Crusader, on 12 September 2013 - 04:47 AM, said:




The only thing time has changed for faith in my life is the more times passes, the more I see it is unwarranted and destructive (the religious kind of faith).


I hear ya faith to me is as pointless as tossing a coin into a wishing well. However many confuse hope with faith and need to put a lable on it.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:56 AM

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Science was the man made invention that faith used to kill man on that day and I believe the faith was in Allah and the after life. Sad but true or was it for money.
So could we not say then that bulldozers, trucks, and engineering principles were the manmade inventions used by those who truly believed (faith) that a road through the mountain would be a good thing for the community?

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 05:05 AM

Just a silly thought, but imagine a situation when your dear faith is challenged. Angry 7-foot tall guys with power armors and gauss rifles storm into the church you are in with other frightened churchgoers. They damand you to abandon your faith and embrace their mechanistic philosophy. You and others refuse.

Then they pull the triggers. In full auto mode.





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