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#1    docyabut2

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 12:57 PM

The United States and Russia struck a deal Saturday under which Syria will allow its stockpile of chemical weapons to be removed or destroyed by next year — easing a crisis over a threatened American military attack.
Secretary of State John Kerry and his Russian counterpart, Sergei Lavrov, announced the deal after a third day of talks in Geneva.


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Posted 14 September 2013 - 01:53 PM

As much as I don`t agree with President Obama on a lot of issues, or that he`s a weak president. I do have to give credit for this one.If he did not threaten a strike,nothing would have been settle on the removable of those chemical weapons , just like when President Kenney  threaten to strike Cuba., if Russia did,nt agree to get the nukes out of there.It does take lot of courage to make a stand.


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Posted 14 September 2013 - 03:57 PM

I reckon President Putin saved Obama's ass so he didn't have to embarrass himself and America.

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 04:02 PM

Too early to say, we'll have to wait till mid 2014


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Posted 14 September 2013 - 04:25 PM

View Postdocyabut2, on 14 September 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

As much as I don`t agree with President Obama on a lot of issues, or that he`s a weak president. I do have to give credit for this one.If he did not threaten a strike,nothing would have been settle on the removable of those chemical weapons , just like when President Kenney  threaten to strike Cuba., if Russia did,nt agree to get the nukes out of there.It does take lot of courage to make a stand.


How much you wanna bet, that's probably how they will describe it (or something similar to that) in future U.S. History books? If everything follows through as planned, of course.

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 11:24 PM

Just ignore McCain and Graham; they are speaking like total idiots.

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 12:18 AM

Oh good what a relief.  Now they can keep on killing thousands of women and children in more conventional terms.  I hate seeing children suffer before they die.

100,000 - 1,400 = 98,600

You think they would be talking to their "allies" to stop the bloodshed, wouldn't you?

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 12:19 AM

View Postpallidin, on 14 September 2013 - 11:24 PM, said:

Just ignore McCain and Graham; they are speaking like total idiots.

POW "shell-shock" or old age, or both.
Yes, well given that McCain was caught red-handed playing poker on his phone while they were putting the case for and and against military action in Congress I would be less than impressed by anyone who thought his opinion counted in this matter one iota.

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 02:21 AM

View PostlibstaK, on 15 September 2013 - 12:19 AM, said:

Yes, well given that McCain was caught red-handed playing poker on his phone while they were putting the case for and and against military action in Congress I would be less than impressed by anyone who thought his opinion counted in this matter one iota.


Lol. Then he lost on top of that! Or at least they say he did.

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 02:23 AM

View PostPurifier, on 15 September 2013 - 02:21 AM, said:

Lol. Then he lost on top of that! Or at least they say he did.

That'll learn him! :yes:
He said that himself - from the horse's mouth "I lost thousands in that game".

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 02:46 AM

View PostlibstaK, on 15 September 2013 - 02:23 AM, said:

He said that himself - from the horse's mouth "I lost thousands in that game".


That's right, he did say that didn't he. Expensive lesson, but I have a feeling that's just chump change to that dude.

Sounds like he might have a gambling problem, as well.

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 02:49 AM

Sounds like some character assassination going on above.


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Posted 15 September 2013 - 02:52 AM

I think it is a delaying tactic and the Syrians will find some excuse for doing nothing and the Russians will veto anything put in front of the Security Council.  Or maybe a few will be handed over and then some excuse found.

Of course Obama has his escape from a politically unpopular action, so the murder of those men, women and children in such a horrible way will end up helping the Syrian regime after all.


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Posted 15 September 2013 - 05:51 AM

View PostFrank Merton, on 15 September 2013 - 02:52 AM, said:

I think it is a delaying tactic and the Syrians will find some excuse for doing nothing and the Russians will veto anything put in front of the Security Council.  Or maybe a few will be handed over and then some excuse found.

Of course Obama has his escape from a politically unpopular action, so the murder of those men, women and children in such a horrible way will end up helping the Syrian regime after all.
It's just a figleaf for Obama.  The world just watched the reintroduction of chemical warfare, yawned and looked away.  When it gets used in a Paris or NY subway I wonder if they'll be yawning?

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 10:01 AM

I think the west just needs to hold its hands up and admit we backed the wrong side. and embarrassingly the rebels i believe used the chemical weapons. thats why we witnessed a weak UN backed inspector mission. not to apportion blame.

Obama's whole mind set changed when the British decided not to go along with a strike from that point the US as been backpedaling. Obama went from imminent strike, to looking at a way to backtrack but at the same time - saving face. so he decided to give congress a vote which gave him ten days wriggle room, when it was evident over the coming days that the only willing strike partners were the French another way out was needed, step forward Russia and the situation we have today with decommissioning chemical weapons. etc....

When is the west going to learn, the middle east is full of dictators for a reason, in that region you need a strong hard line leader to keep a lid on the pressure cooker, its no wonder we see autocracy in the middle east, and lets not kid ourselves, even when we remove these type of leaders the western style of democracy we want and the type of democracy the people want are two different things and it usually ends up with a right mess. usually ten years of bloodshed before a moderate leader takes charge, followed by a return to autocracy - and as long as this leader is supportive to the west we'll do business with them.

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