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Astronomer Seth Shostak:We'll find ET by 2037

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#1    Still Waters

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 06:51 PM

SETI Institute chief astronomer Seth Shostak bet hundreds of people at our Boing Boing: Ingenuity live event that we'll hear from an extraterrestrial within 25 years. Watch this video to understand why the odds are in Seth's favor.

http://boingboing.ne...hostak-wel.html

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 06:59 PM

Wow,then I might come from the future.


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Posted 15 September 2013 - 07:20 PM

And he bet on it!!
Contact is one of my favourite movies and I'd love it if it'll ever become a reality.

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 07:24 PM

View PostAggie, on 15 September 2013 - 07:20 PM, said:

And he bet on it!!
Contact is one of my favourite movies and I'd love it if it'll ever become a reality.

Mine was Fire in The Sky.  It was only later that I learned that the film makers disregarded Walton's testimony and pasted in their own version of the face to face contact.  No doubt to turn it into a horror movie rather than merely a drama.

Edited by zoser, 15 September 2013 - 07:25 PM.

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 07:30 PM

I have to say I'm skeptical, but that is my normal setting.


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Posted 15 September 2013 - 07:33 PM

So any/all advanced civilisations replace themselves with machines?  Whatever, maybe for long space hauls....

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 07:43 PM

View Postseeder, on 15 September 2013 - 07:33 PM, said:

So any/all advanced civilisations replace themselves with machines?  Whatever, maybe for long space hauls....

Why can I only see that an an H.R. Giger themed Lovecraftian bit of mind *******?

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 07:47 PM

View Postseeder, on 15 September 2013 - 07:33 PM, said:

So any/all advanced civilisations replace themselves with machines?  Whatever, maybe for long space hauls....
I think more likely we will supplement ourselves with machine parts.


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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:22 PM

Enigmatic throwaway line "We have Rovers going to Mars. They're not looking for life, but they will soon".
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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:25 PM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 15 September 2013 - 08:22 PM, said:

Enigmatic throwaway line "We have Rovers going to Mars. They're not looking for life, but they will soon".
:unsure2:
Well, yes, any astronomy looks for life out there, including things to the planets.  It may not be the main reason for the work, but if life is found regardless it will be found.


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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:28 PM

im 25 years... i be 56 and i look back at this thread and go... "KISSES TO ALL"

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:35 PM

Huh.

And we haven't heard from them by now?

What's so dang special about 25-year's from today?

I call total BS on this. Another "wannabe" date that will not happen.

EDIT: In other news, and to all credits, the end-of-the-world date's seem to have stopped. Well, for now.

Edited by pallidin, 15 September 2013 - 08:42 PM.


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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:38 PM

View Postpallidin, on 15 September 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

Huh.

And we haven't heard from them by now?

What's so dang special about 25-year's from today?

I call total BS on this. Another "wannabe" date that will not happen.
Well, to be fair, he's more than just some random nut on youtube.

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:39 PM

View PostFrank Merton, on 15 September 2013 - 08:25 PM, said:

Well, yes, any astronomy looks for life out there, including things to the planets.  It may not be the main reason for the work, but if life is found regardless it will be found.
but does he mean that's part of the plan, that the Mars Rover will look for signs of (presumable ancient) life,? Richard Hoagland will be pleased, at least.

If, as it seems, we are in the process of becoming a totalitarian society in which the state apparatus is all-powerful, the ethics most important for the survival of the true, free, human individual would be: cheat, lie, evade, fake it, be elsewhere, forge documents, build improved electronic gadgets in your garage that’ll outwit the gadgets used by the authorities.

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:43 PM

One question, though, about his "ETs are likely to be mega-intelligent machines" thesis; is he speculating that any ET race with super enough technology would somehow hybridise themselves so that they're partly machine? does he envisage the machines taking over? :cat: And how does he envisage discovering them? if SETI still relies on listening out for Radio signals, surely any race as super-duper advanced as he's talking about wouldn't still be using radio transmissions in frequencies we can detect, would they? :unsure2:

If, as it seems, we are in the process of becoming a totalitarian society in which the state apparatus is all-powerful, the ethics most important for the survival of the true, free, human individual would be: cheat, lie, evade, fake it, be elsewhere, forge documents, build improved electronic gadgets in your garage that’ll outwit the gadgets used by the authorities.

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