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#1    Drayno

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 12:42 AM

It is better to honor the dead than clout up the topic dedicated to their tragic demises.

The political aspects of the Navy Yard shooting should be discussed on a separate topic.

Here we go!

http://www.nationalj...l-laws-20130916

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Sen. Dianne Feinstein, one of the Senate's leading voices on gun control, called for stricter gun laws in the aftermath of Monday's killings at Washington's Navy Yard.

The California Democrat said the deaths of the 12 people Monday were at the hands of a man armed with an AR-15, a shotgun, and a semiautomatic handgun, although details of his weapons have not been confirmed.

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"This is one more event to add to the litany of massacres that occur when a deranged person or grievance killer is able to obtain multiple weapons—including a military-style assault rifle—and kill many people in a short amount of time. When will enough be enough? Congress must stop shirking its responsibility and resume a thoughtful debate on gun violence in this country. We must do more to stop this endless loss of life."



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 12:44 AM

Yet again it was in a gun free zone.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 12:46 AM

and yet laws are absolutely powerless to stop shootings, and she knows it.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 12:54 AM

View Postspartan max2, on 17 September 2013 - 12:44 AM, said:

Yet again it was in a gun free zone.
Of course it was a gun-free zone, it was a bloody military base. All firearms on a military base are scrupulously secured in the armoury.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 12:55 AM

View Postspartan max2, on 17 September 2013 - 12:44 AM, said:

Yet again it was in a gun free zone.

More like a gun-free zone within a gun-free zone.

Washington itself is a gun-free zone; military installations don't allow active members to carry.

Except for Military Police; and even then, they may not have live or actual ammunition in their sidearms.

View Postaztek, on 17 September 2013 - 12:46 AM, said:

and yet laws are absolutely powerless to stop shootings, and she knows it.

She's an evil witch, in my opinion, who stood on the bodies of those poor dead children from Newtown.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 01:01 AM

Saying a military installation is gun-free is kind of like saying a Chicago or D.C. police station is gun-free.  That place had armed security and metal detectors. Not much you can do though when someone unloads into a crowded cafeteria.


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Posted 17 September 2013 - 01:04 AM

^^^^^^ so how come no one shot him??  why fort hood shoter was not stopped in his tracks?

how long do you think someone would continue shooting if he started it at a police station? how many times have you heard of a shooting at police station?? (a hint, all cops are armed) why aren't soldiers?

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 01:29 AM

View PostGromdor, on 17 September 2013 - 01:01 AM, said:

Saying a military installation is gun-free is kind of like saying a Chicago or D.C. police station is gun-free.  That place had armed security and metal detectors. Not much you can do though when someone unloads into a crowded cafeteria.

Most weapons are stored on military bases.

View Postaztek, on 17 September 2013 - 01:04 AM, said:

^^^^^^ so how come no one shot him??  why fort hood shoter was not stopped in his tracks?

how long do you think someone would continue shooting if he started it at a police station? how many times have you heard of a shooting at police station?? (a hint, all cops are armed) why aren't soldiers?

The same reason.. Most workers were unarmed.

The soldiers at Fort Hood had to wait for the police to arrive to be saved.

It's clear to me that Gun Control doesn't work, and historically it's the policy of brain-dead or evil leaders.

Gun-free zones + Gun Control + ? = Profit!

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 01:31 AM

yeah. Feinstein is an evil witch. we all hate her in California yet she somehow blows smoke up her cronies' arses and viola! shes in office for another term. I wish some gun man would break into DC and shoot with a paintball gun just to prove a point. but hit her in the eyes and blind the witch...seriously.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 01:34 AM

View PostHatake Kakashi, on 17 September 2013 - 01:29 AM, said:



Most weapons are stored on military bases.



The same reason.. Most workers were unarmed.

The soldiers at Fort Hood had to wait for the police to arrive to be saved.

It's clear to me that Gun Control doesn't work, and historically it's the policy of brain-dead or evil leaders.

Gun-free zones + Gun Control + ? = Profit!

Yes... especially when the ones creating the laws walk around with fully armed body guards.... says a lot about who they're really protecting.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 01:44 AM

View Postpbarosso, on 17 September 2013 - 01:31 AM, said:

yeah. Feinstein is an evil witch. we all hate her in California yet she somehow blows smoke up her cronies' arses and viola! shes in office for another term. I wish some gun man would break into DC and shoot with a paintball gun just to prove a point. but hit her in the eyes and blind the witch...seriously.

I would challenge her to a dual if I could.

I hope you'd pull an Aaron Burr / Alexander Hamilton and use flintlocks for the extra laugh.

It's the gentleman's way. While Feinstein surely isn't gentle with her intentions, she sure is a man.

Or at least looks the part with her evil eyes and need to enable destructive policies.

View Postacidhead, on 17 September 2013 - 01:34 AM, said:

Yes... especially when the ones creating the laws walk around with fully armed body guards.... says a lot about who they're really protecting.

Themselves and no one else. They take the money of the poor (the ones not on welfare and food stamps), and live freely to excess, take vacation after vacation (or is it just Obama that takes eight vacations?), all the while almost passive aggressively passing laws that deliberately target the rights of the people that they are supposed to protect.

To me, Miss Feinstein looks like she has another opportunity to put another tragedy to good use.

Edited by Hatake Kakashi, 17 September 2013 - 01:44 AM.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 01:56 AM

Interestingly enough, there are a few sacrificial lambs that carry guns.  They are meant to slow the bad folks down.  Otherwise all guns from persons and/or residences on the base are stored in the Armory leaving 99% unarmed.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 02:18 AM

View PostHatake Kakashi, on 17 September 2013 - 12:55 AM, said:

More like a gun-free zone within a gun-free zone.

Washington itself is a gun-free zone; military installations don't allow active members to carry.

Except for Military Police; and even then, they may not have live or actual ammunition in their sidearms.



She's an evil witch, in my opinion, who stood on the bodies of those poor dead children from Newtown.
Didn't she initially gain notoriety in SF after Harvey Milk was assassinated?  If I remember that correctly I'd say she's been stepping on bodies for a while now.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 02:28 AM

View Postpbarosso, on 17 September 2013 - 01:31 AM, said:

yeah. Feinstein is an evil witch. we all hate her in California

apparently you are in a vanishing minority. She won 63% of the vote in the last election. "everyone" has a strange meaning your mind...

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 02:30 AM

View Postand then, on 17 September 2013 - 02:18 AM, said:

Didn't she initially gain notoriety in SF after Harvey Milk was assassinated?  If I remember that correctly I'd say she's been stepping on bodies for a while now.

If it goes back that far, geeze, I'd say longer than a while.

Then again, it doesn't surprise me.

Most politicians make a living on the bodies of thousands; whether victims of gun-free zones or 'peace' bombs dropped on foreign soil as the result of drones, air strikes, or whatever mode of destruction. There is no boundary for their shame.

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