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Ectoplasm: fact or fiction?

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#16    Frank Merton

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 01:38 AM

View Postrodentraiser, on 20 September 2013 - 11:31 PM, said:

I've seen too many cases where it can be debunked: camera strap, cigarette smoke, etc. So I say fiction. However, I have seen "wisps" where none should be and couldn't be explained. So.....I'm keeping an open mind.

Basically, I think all paranormal events are filed under "open mind" for me. If they can be explained, great. If they can't, well, I'll accept it as true with the understanding that if it can be explained in the future, it's not true. I always did balance on the edge and fall off once in a while.
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Posted 21 September 2013 - 03:10 AM

View PostClaimer Pi, on 19 September 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

Until I see a sample of ectoplasm being analyzed in a lab somewhere, I'm gunna have to remain skeptical.
I agree

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 01:58 PM

View PostRafterman, on 19 September 2013 - 02:09 PM, said:

I've been slimed, Ray.

View PostJesseCuster, on 21 September 2013 - 01:23 AM, said:

That's great! Actual physical contact!

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 12:46 AM

We only really have our own beliefs/experiences to paint a canvas regarding the concept of 'ghosts', typically falling into active/residual/visitation slices, if you believe in ghosts, a theory is that they 'drain' energy from humans and electric appliances and the atmosphere itself somehow... in order to manifest part of itself or actual fully bodied. Seems like how batteries interact with contraptions. Fascinating even if you don't fully believe, there is some mechanism in action.

Also, the magnetic properties of surfaces like stone has interestingly has been proposed to 'replay' events of traumatic/potent energies, as if the energy was so great that it imprinted itself on the stone somehow. Gettysburg supposedly has all manner of replaying (not just the re-enactments!) I have no idea what the texture of the landscape is there. It all boils down to what the heck paranormal entities could be constructed/woven of. There are orbs and wisps frequently caught on photos, 95% of these I believe can be interpreted as dust, reflection, bad development, hoax etc etc but sweeping them all under one safe definition is unhelpful to unravel the stranger mysteries of our realm.

It stands to reason that ectoplasm could be related to the material that a manifested spirit is composed of, light, smoke, haze, pale, cotton, half-thought, reflection, shimmer... they don't convey a feeling of solidness nor liquid, it's not as if we can snatch one in a pokéball and send it on down to a lab either to analyze. For many that means they are mere fantasy and fabrication of those too deluded to consider that death is the end and final. Dreams transcend logic via chemical contribution so mayhap our senses only allow us to perceive spirits in a distorted capsule, who the heck knows! You can interpret dreams without physically dragging them out into the room, we can interpret paranormal experiences and offer our opinion. We all dream so it's very simple to lower the boundary and hop over the fence and play. Group experiences are always compelling and usually those who've seen a ghost (or something effective enough to pierce their passion for the possibility) are more likely to.approach things with less 'logic' that we are locked into each day.

Sure I've heard of ectoplasm appearing yet it seems a rare occurrence and never have I heard about it from more 'common' people in houses/pubs etc. It seems to be linked to magicians and famous cases if I recall my reading on the matter. If there is an ounce of truth to the stuff it surely must be the 'tissue' of the energy. Almost too good to be true, such a gruesome party trick. I realize this has little to do with ectoplasm but the core is somewhat congruent hee hee.

Edited by DancingCorpse, 22 September 2013 - 12:50 AM.

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 04:15 PM

View Postcrowman, on 19 September 2013 - 10:25 AM, said:

Hi im from Crowstone Paranormal Team ,Whats your views on Ectoplasm ? Some say its Spiritual energy,some say its faked,Whats your opinion ?

The problem with the ectoplasmic phenomenon is that several mediums, tested under controlled conditions in the 1800s and early 1900s, have been proved to be frauds. Such as Lina Stinson Crandon, Eva Carrière, Jack Webber ect. These were famous mediums with the greatest claims. That pretty much put an end to the serious scientific researches about ectoplasmic at that time, having no way to tell what can be 'true' and was fraudulent. Researchers been divided on the matter.

I cannot stop thinking though that they may be a legitimate paranormal phenomenon behind this, ectoplasmic maybe perhaps not as great as was once claimed.
I marvel in reading texts from Charles Richet, who invented this term and which expose, based on various researches and controlled sceances a phenomenon that may have something true in itself and unknown to us though now vaguely dismissed, overshadowed by the illusionists and frauds that have been demasked overtime.

Edited by sam_comm, 22 September 2013 - 04:27 PM.

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 07:28 PM

View Postcrowman, on 19 September 2013 - 10:25 AM, said:

Hi im from Crowstone Paranormal Team ,Whats your views on Ectoplasm ? Some say its Spiritual energy,some say its faked,Whats your opinion ?

I suppose its existence is closely reliant on whether or not ghosts are real, as it is presumed to be a bi-product of their activity. So this question is a bit like asking whether or not unicorn scat is real.

Edited by Mike G, 22 September 2013 - 07:28 PM.

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