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#436    psyche101

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 07:23 AM

View PostHawkin, on 28 December 2013 - 05:07 AM, said:

You might find this link interesting. It has an article with a video attached. Former Military men are giving
testimony of UFO's over military bases.

http://www.ufohastings.com


You really have not researched these cases, nor Hastings credibility have you? Ever heard of Tim Herbert? He outright proved the Echo Flight claim could not possibly have happened how Hastings swears it had to have, and his sock puppet Salas can't even remember where he was, and is contradicted by the other two members present at the time.

Try this link.

LINK - Tim Herberts Blog.

Tim worked on these things himself, and that shows in the presentation of his work. A true gentleman, with a brilliant mind. And Tim does not get heated like Hastings. I wish I had his demeanour myself.

Hastings posted here at UM, but left after Leonardo asked some pertinent questions he obviously could not answer, not to mention that Eric Carlson. who was at Echo at the time also joined the thread and asked Hastings why no a single UFOlogist had ever approached him about the incident when he was the man there at the time. Again, Hastings offered nothing but silence, he also dismissed Walt Figel when he clarified the recordings that Hastings had long said supported his position, when it seems all that did support his position was his own interpretation of Figel's comments. That is why he refused to let walt attend the 2010 conference even though Walt was eager to attend, and was a mere ten miles was from the venue when the event was held.

He hides more then he tells form what I see, and if anyone challenges him, he red faced swears and rants at them in a disgusting manner. Not sure what you see here as valuable.



View PostHawkin, on 01 January 2014 - 04:16 PM, said:

You and I know that. I'm just informing others on this thread that are unaware.


You KNOW that do you? You know what, I reckon that just a bogus statement for peer approval. Sad. It is most certainly not backed up.

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 07:28 AM

View Postrajeev shagun, on 06 January 2014 - 03:04 AM, said:

easier

any reason to dislike Hasting ? i don't know him though.

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 07:38 AM

View PostChrLzs, on 02 January 2014 - 11:38 AM, said:

Ah, now I get it..  That's why Delhapura {sp?} is not on Google Maps or even mentioned anywhere!!!  It's secwut nucular test facility.  No wonder Rajeev didn't bring that up - he's probably nervous about giving away a state secret..

Although.. if Delhapura isn't a secret test facility, I'd have to question why it is ontopic to link a site run by folks who make their money on the UFO circuit, and whose stories are disputed by both the facts and records and others who worked there...

For those who are taken in by the Hastings conjob, I'd suggest you spend some time reading this thread at another forum, where Hastings is now banned..  My favorite post on that thread is possibly this one..  Hastings, rather like another well-known tro poster here, has nothing but anecdotes and stories, and an intense hatred of James Oberg (who most ufo-folk will know..) - ask yourself why that might be..


Cheers mate all the best for the new year!

Here is a link to the UM thread where Hastings made a hasty appearance. And Disappearance.


And for anyone wanting to actually learn something, here is a link to a free EBook by James Carlson intimately delving into the specifics of Echo Flight.

Free Book people, what do you have to lose? Gullibility?

Edited by psyche101, 15 January 2014 - 07:38 AM.

Things are what they are. - Me Reality can't be debunked. That's the beauty of it. - Capeo 'If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.' - Sir Isaac Newton. "Let me repeat the lesson learned from the Sturrock scientific review panel: Pack up your old data and forget it. Ufology needs new data, new cases, new rigorous and scientific methodologies if it hopes ever to get out of its pit." Ed Stewart. Youtube is the last refuge of the ignorant and is more often used for disinformation than genuine research.  There is a REASON for PEER REVIEW... - Chrlzs. Nothing is inexplicable, just unexplained. - Sir Wearer of Hats.


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Posted 15 January 2014 - 07:42 AM

View PostSpacenut56, on 01 January 2014 - 03:37 PM, said:

The interest in nuclear weapons has been going on for some time, back even before Roswell.

Pure unadulterated credulous bunkum.

Patrick Huyghe, author of Swamp Gas Times details this in his book. Numbers how that the correlation is non existent, UFO's are no more likely to appear over a nuclear facility than they are a children's playground.

Things are what they are. - Me Reality can't be debunked. That's the beauty of it. - Capeo 'If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.' - Sir Isaac Newton. "Let me repeat the lesson learned from the Sturrock scientific review panel: Pack up your old data and forget it. Ufology needs new data, new cases, new rigorous and scientific methodologies if it hopes ever to get out of its pit." Ed Stewart. Youtube is the last refuge of the ignorant and is more often used for disinformation than genuine research.  There is a REASON for PEER REVIEW... - Chrlzs. Nothing is inexplicable, just unexplained. - Sir Wearer of Hats.


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Posted 15 January 2014 - 10:39 AM

View Postrajeev shagun, on 15 January 2014 - 05:35 AM, said:

(...) now i trust his sightings even though peter was high that evening.

Respect! Your resource "Peter" seems to be a resource of the highest level of credibility possible. Stay in touch and feed us with the truth.

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 10:45 AM

View Posttoast, on 15 January 2014 - 10:39 AM, said:

Respect! Your resource "Peter" seems to be a resource of the highest level of credibility possible. Stay in touch and feed us with the truth.

PLEASE refrain from encouraging him!! ;)


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Posted 15 January 2014 - 10:48 AM

View Postrajeev shagun, on 15 January 2014 - 05:35 AM, said:

now i trust his sightings even though peter was high that evening.

Just read this lol...

(edit) nm, no point trying to pursue this topic any further.

Edited by Blacksabbath, 15 January 2014 - 10:53 AM.


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Posted 15 January 2014 - 11:26 PM

View PostJacques Terreur, on 15 January 2014 - 10:45 AM, said:

PLEASE refrain from encouraging him!! ;)

Maybe he meant something else? A peter (no capital) also refers to...... nevermind.

I talk to my mate Stanley from time to time, but not about UFO's.......

Edited by psyche101, 15 January 2014 - 11:26 PM.

Things are what they are. - Me Reality can't be debunked. That's the beauty of it. - Capeo 'If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.' - Sir Isaac Newton. "Let me repeat the lesson learned from the Sturrock scientific review panel: Pack up your old data and forget it. Ufology needs new data, new cases, new rigorous and scientific methodologies if it hopes ever to get out of its pit." Ed Stewart. Youtube is the last refuge of the ignorant and is more often used for disinformation than genuine research.  There is a REASON for PEER REVIEW... - Chrlzs. Nothing is inexplicable, just unexplained. - Sir Wearer of Hats.


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 05:56 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 15 January 2014 - 11:26 PM, said:

Maybe he meant something else? A peter (no capital) also refers to...... nevermind.

I talk to my mate Stanley from time to time, but not about UFO's.......

hahahaha....took me a moment..... :D :tsu:


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 06:31 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 15 January 2014 - 11:26 PM, said:

Maybe he meant something else? A peter (no capital) also refers to...... nevermind.

I talk to my mate Stanley from time to time, but not about UFO's.......
i only could see peter after year and half and when he used to telling about his two saucers sighting at country side in England...i showed not a great believe or trust,but time has changed so does my belief, after i accidentally could see that bright object and i think i since started to have bit of guilty to not really believing my mate,so i mentioned about my sighting and showed my belief on his sightings too.    hope you understand what i meant. is it any thing wrong in to "being honest or confessing mistakes" ??? i told peter "sorry i was not really right about not trusting the ufo's reaching to our planet"


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 07:15 AM

View Postrajeev shagun, on 16 January 2014 - 06:31 AM, said:

i only could see peter after year and half and when he used to telling about his two saucers sighting at country side in England...i showed not a great believe or trust,but time has changed so does my belief, after i accidentally could see that bright object and i think i since started to have bit of guilty to not really believing my mate,so i mentioned about my sighting and showed my belief on his sightings too. hope you understand what i meant. is it any thing wrong in to "being honest or confessing mistakes" ??? i told peter "sorry i was not really right about not trusting the ufo's reaching to our planet"

Its obvious you believe what you saw was a UFO that reached our planet.  Perhaps the very same one that pot smoking Pete saw.  This 'story' has grown worse than any moon hoax


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 08:18 AM

View Postrajeev shagun, on 16 January 2014 - 06:31 AM, said:

i only could see peter after year and half and when he used to telling about his two saucers sighting at country side in England...i showed not a great believe or trust,but time has changed so does my belief, after i accidentally could see that bright object and i think i since started to have bit of guilty to not really believing my mate,so i mentioned about my sighting and showed my belief on his sightings too. hope you understand what i meant. is it any thing wrong in to "being honest or confessing mistakes" ??? i told peter "sorry i was not really right about not trusting the ufo's reaching to our planet"

I never said you did anything wrong, just trying to offer clarification!

Meteors and the like reach out planet, they are not always immediately identified so they would be UFO's but you do not have to apologise for anything to anyone there.

Did the speed estimates help you out at all?

Edited by psyche101, 16 January 2014 - 08:18 AM.

Things are what they are. - Me Reality can't be debunked. That's the beauty of it. - Capeo 'If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.' - Sir Isaac Newton. "Let me repeat the lesson learned from the Sturrock scientific review panel: Pack up your old data and forget it. Ufology needs new data, new cases, new rigorous and scientific methodologies if it hopes ever to get out of its pit." Ed Stewart. Youtube is the last refuge of the ignorant and is more often used for disinformation than genuine research.  There is a REASON for PEER REVIEW... - Chrlzs. Nothing is inexplicable, just unexplained. - Sir Wearer of Hats.


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 08:26 PM

View Postrajeev shagun, on 20 September 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

The Mooth/GHAATH (as indian ppl believes)is woo-doo kind of stuff that u see flying in the sky,burning llike oil lamp and it goes to perticulor person and kill him or turn him in ashes.ppl believe if u point ur finger it will come to u stead him/her.

This is my first post in your topic thread rajeev,

I don't know about taboo stuff in India.  So I'll ask, isn't woo-doo something else entirely, like muslim abulition before prayer ?   Do people in India talk about UFO as woo-doo  or more like voo doo  magic, bad magic or bad spirits or similar stuff ?    I won't argue authenticity factors about your topic opening just asking my questions about the way people discuss the topic of UFO in India, in general, thanks.


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Posted 20 January 2014 - 06:22 AM

View Postspacelizard667, on 16 January 2014 - 08:26 PM, said:





Do people in India talk about just asking my questions about the way people discuss the topic of UFO in India,
Hey,
I have seen on several occasions that if u spot some thing weird in sky moving,they prevent u pointing to it,when it was asked most time it said 'it may harm u'.in all cases they were afraid when i or somebody else tried to point .and they don't want to talk about it.many times i saw real fear in their eyes.


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Posted 20 January 2014 - 07:07 AM

View Posttaniwha, on 16 January 2014 - 07:15 AM, said:



what you saw was a UFO that reached our planet.  Perhaps the very same one that pot smoking Pete saw.  
What pete saw,they were cleared saucer's shape object and one of them flew over the bus next sec. Whole bus power n engine failed,it took 4-5 hours to get backup bus to take people away,the only similarity in my sighting and his.is the maneuvers are on same pattern,move in one dir. n stop then shoot in another direction,





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