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#16    Brian Topp

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:28 AM

View PostFrank Merton, on 21 September 2013 - 12:12 AM, said:

Great; I wondered if anyone would pick up the allusion.  I use to devour his novels.  Pity there won't be more.

You read the dodger? Really good book

http://www.amazon.co...t/dp/0062009494

It is easier to claim it is paranormal than taking the hard route and find out what really happened.


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Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:42 AM

Wasn't aware of its existence; I will watch out for it.


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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:23 PM

View Postcatalyst of change, on 19 September 2013 - 06:32 PM, said:

So I've been a spiritual man for a about 6 years or more now and I'm wondering about other beings' perspectives on the light, dark, and path between. I'm at a crossroads again. Occasionally I slip up and try to control or punish people out of a lack of discipline of my emotions using psychic ability or magic.


Be careful.  Directing negative thoughts at people will have adverse affects on you in the end.

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Usually all I do is help, heal, enlighten people, and more. Lately it's gotten really difficult though because it seems humanity is fighting to stay in the darkness of ignorance and hold onto the old system that no longer serves our highest good.


I don't think this is true.   The human race is totally stuck in a rut that it cannot climb out of.  There is no choice at the moment for the 7 billion people alive on this planet.  No one has proposed an alternative.  Think about that if you would.

View Postcatalyst of change, on 19 September 2013 - 06:32 PM, said:


I've left many groups and people behind now because they didn't care half as much as I do about these things or changing the world. I figured that if they are meant to or care enough, they will find their own way without my help but I can no longer spend excess psychic energy to keep things running almost on my own. So here I am now on a solo journey.


It will take a lot more than a group to change the world.  Only some overwhelming influence can do that now.  It's all gone too far. Better to concentrate on making yourself a better person than to have dreams and illusions about changing the world.  Start there.

View Postcatalyst of change, on 19 September 2013 - 06:32 PM, said:


I don't have any to share my experiences with but I am indeed developing. I've done much reading and spiritual practice lately and my perspective has shown me a world of light simply in "shades of grey" one might say. To me, the worst of evils is love taking, power taking, vampirism, ignorance, and so on.


The situation is far far worse than you think.  The whole planet is now nothing more than a concentration camp for human souls.  Misery is everywhere, real religion has all but disappeared, and time is running out.   IT's a miracle to me that the situation has lasted for as long as it has.  Make hay while the sun shines (in a spiritual and religious sense I mean) has to be the message.

Be careful about claiming self-development.  It's an extremely difficult thing to do, requiring special knowledge, self-discipline, and persistence.  Very few people in my experience ever manage to do it.

View Postcatalyst of change, on 19 September 2013 - 06:32 PM, said:


Yet I do not find darkness (chaos) evil at all. Nor is the light (order) good in my eyes. They both balance each other out. With only one, man can only advance so far and I feel that the old gods knew more about this. By utilizing both, one can attune to the world inbetween (middle path) and become a true master of themselves and the world. It's all a great balancing act. There are deeper aspects to this but I don't want to rant for too long so please share with me your own thoughts. If you want greater insight on my perspective, read from here. http://www.chaosmatr...ts/kathulu.html

Again my advice would be try and put this kind of philosophy to one side for now and just concentrate on being the best person you can be.  Reach for what is real and practical.  Here is a short list: warmth, care, honour, sensitivity, respect, no judgement or criticism, patience, and humility.  Find out what these things are and try and connect with them.

That's all I would say.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:42 PM

I'm much more optimistic.  First, I don't think seven billion is too many.  My attitude is the more the better (more people having a chance to live), all else being equal (so long as they are not diseased or hungry and so on).

Second, I think the world is stumbling along pretty well, steadily reducing poverty and hunger and disease, constantly producing art and music and literature and film (much of which is of lasting value), and steadily learning more and more about ourselves and the world we live in.

I tend to view the struttings and ambitions of world leaders as superficial while real history is going on less ostentatiously.


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Posted 22 September 2013 - 12:14 AM

View PostBrian Topp, on 20 September 2013 - 11:52 PM, said:

I controled you, I made you get so mad  that you went to defend yourself with sheer frustration to prove a point with out backing it up with video or going public with your claims.

How did i do it? I'm a skeptic... So i couldn't go into your mind and make you type those words but i did It by snapping a behaviour, it's knowing about that person more than the person knows himself to set the stage with the props and watch the show unfold.

It isn't magic as you make it sound like, it's psychology and that is one of the truer magics of the world


I highly doubt it, I have seen so many people who come here with claims, heck i list a few.
1. End of the world X5 times
2. That an alien invasion would happen X3 times.
3. That if the government comes out with the information, they will release it publicly X1
4. That they will destroy something with their powers X3
5. That they will show us all by proving something X43 times (hint they never did)

Thats just a few.. i'll add yours to the list.
No it was of my own will. I said what I felt must be said for my own reasons. Don't be fooled by your illusion of power or the rants of your ego. I don't have anything to prove. Nor do I want to. You feel as though I must explain everything to prove my validity. I do not care nor feel the same way. It is a waste. You're also not very informed about the life of psychics. People who are too showy suffer because of their talents or gifts because of the nature of humans and other beings to take advantage of them. I can assure you that you know absolutely nothing about me. I am well aware of psychology and the workings of the mind. You don't seem like a skeptic to me. You seem like someone who simply uses the cover of skepticism to cause a disturbance that births the energy you desire so that you may feed and find the attention that you need. It probably inflates your head and helps you to find worth in yourself. In response  to your second post, I've stated none of those things. Whether you are aware of the psychic or occultic phenomena matters not. That is one simple reason why so many are puppets in this world. Know this. If people are not aware of the existence of something, they will never have the means to defend themselves against it. Keep that in mind. It is a stepping stone for furthering your knowledge and perspective.

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 12:37 AM

View Postzoser, on 21 September 2013 - 08:23 PM, said:

Be careful.  Directing negative thoughts at people will have adverse affects on you in the end.



I don't think this is true.   The human race is totally stuck in a rut that it cannot climb out of.  There is no choice at the moment for the 7 billion people alive on this planet.  No one has proposed an alternative.  Think about that if you would.



It will take a lot more than a group to change the world.  Only some overwhelming influence can do that now.  It's all gone too far. Better to concentrate on making yourself a better person than to have dreams and illusions about changing the world.  Start there.



The situation is far far worse than you think.  The whole planet is now nothing more than a concentration camp for human souls.  Misery is everywhere, real religion has all but disappeared, and time is running out.   IT's a miracle to me that the situation has lasted for as long as it has.  Make hay while the sun shines (in a spiritual and religious sense I mean) has to be the message.

Be careful about claiming self-development.  It's an extremely difficult thing to do, requiring special knowledge, self-discipline, and persistence.  Very few people in my experience ever manage to do it.



Again my advice would be try and put this kind of philosophy to one side for now and just concentrate on being the best person you can be.  Reach for what is real and practical.  Here is a short list: warmth, care, honour, sensitivity, respect, no judgement or criticism, patience, and humility.  Find out what these things are and try and connect with them.

That's all I would say.
I'm not sure about it. I understand the workings of karma but it may be able to be bypassed or rather my mind is open to the thought. I do not dish out anything I myself can not handle. I limit myself. I don't believe there is no hope for humanity's condition. Things can still be changed but we are VERY far in. Awakening one can lead to the awakening of many. I realize the power I hold within me as a cocreator of the universe and I will not bow to any beings who wish to control or enslave me or the people of earth (that are willing to be saved or save themselves). You say it takes a lot more than a group to change the world. You influence one person, they can influence two. Those two can influence four. And so on. You get what I'm saying to you. I am concentrating on making myself better but it means nothing if you can't give that part of yourself to the world. The enemy has no issue with beings who only wish to serve and benefit themselves but rather those who make a difference in others in addition to themselves. Change is not an illusion. Stagnation is. Dreams become reality through the medium of a creator with equivalent power. This world is naught but a dream. Trust me, I understand much about the earth's situation. Especially on the spiritual planes. I'm aware of the dimensional beings and their workings as well as interactions with human beings. There are spiritual truths and knowledge but you must search endlessly to find pieces of the puzzle to put together to strengthen/enhance your realizations. I do not believe in any religious structure or system. Spirituality or the discovery of the innermost self needs no label. I do not claim self-development. I do. Everyday I do spiritual workings to further elevate and enhance my being. Every day, I reach for more understanding. As a creator, this is only as difficult as my own mind allows it. I brought up this philosophical topic for discussion and to further my understanding. I'm already working on myself. What is real and practical has blurred lines due to many lies floating around but I do strive to stay grounded I assure you. The characteristics you listed do hold significance, but I've found that many others also must be experimented with to truly understand  the most high and low selves. Thank you for your input though and I'm definitely working at being less judgmental but with brutal honesty, we do indeed better ourselves.

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 01:47 AM

View Postcatalyst of change, on 22 September 2013 - 12:14 AM, said:

No it was of my own will. I said what I felt must be said for my own reasons.

Well sure, if you like to think of that

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Don't be fooled by your illusion of power or the rants of your ego.
You know, that what is what i believe most people feel the same about your self proclaimed power and posts. Over the 5 years you have had skeptics and believers ask you questions where you would side step, argue, belittle, change topic and even ignore. Your words hold not true value except to try and make you sound wise and noble and powerful. A false proclaimed profit.

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It is easier to claim it is paranormal than taking the hard route and find out what really happened.


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Posted 22 September 2013 - 06:22 PM

Are you a cult leader because you speak like one.

Also do you grow plants for medicinal purposes?


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Posted 22 September 2013 - 11:17 PM

View Postcoldethyl, on 22 September 2013 - 06:22 PM, said:

Are you a cult leader because you speak like one.

Also do you grow plants for medicinal purposes?
I'm not apart of a cult. And no. A recent goal of mine is to learn to grow my own food though. Why do you ask?

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 03:19 PM

View Postcatalyst of change, on 22 September 2013 - 11:17 PM, said:

I'm not apart of a cult. And no. A recent goal of mine is to learn to grow my own food though. Why do you ask?

View Postcatalyst of change, on 22 September 2013 - 11:17 PM, said:

I'm not apart of a cult. And no. A recent goal of mine is to learn to grow my own food though. Why do you ask?

Because you sound like you smoke mary jane.


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Posted 23 September 2013 - 04:52 PM

View Postcoldethyl, on 23 September 2013 - 03:19 PM, said:

Because you sound like you smoke mary jane.
Well now I know not to take you seriously.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 03:31 PM

View Postcatalyst of change, on 23 September 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

Well now I know not to take you seriously.

Why?  That's my serious opinion.


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 05:37 PM

View Postcoldethyl, on 27 September 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:

Why?  That's my serious opinion.
Guess I shouldn't take that as an insult. Marijuana is used in occult practices and to erase borders/barriers within the mind. Aleister Crowley actually wrote about it. Plus your given perspective is only a mirror of yourself.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 06:30 PM

If you can control people can you lower the crime rate? Or are you the one increasing it?


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 07:04 PM

View Postcatalyst of change, on 19 September 2013 - 06:32 PM, said:

I've left many groups and people behind now because they didn't care half as much as I do about these things or changing the world. I figured that if they are meant to or care enough, they will find their own way without my help but I can no longer spend excess psychic energy to keep things running almost on my own. So here I am now on a solo journey.

This is not the best of references, when you say you left them behind, do you mean as in deserted possible followers who began to question you?

Just asking.

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.




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