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#1    Babe Ruth

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 07:32 PM

http://tinyurl.com/p6z2c5k

Seems to describe the present situation quite well, and it ain't good news.

Is it true that Obama works for the same masters as Bush did?


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Posted 21 September 2013 - 07:34 PM

The FF's would be looking on in disgust - for about 3 minutes - then they'd grab rifles and start a web campaign!

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 07:52 PM

Good article! :tu:

Just want to add one thing:

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The so-called Burning Chamber, so-named for the flaming torches that lined the walls and its victims who would later be set afire at the stake, originated in 1535 under Francis I as an inquisitional court for the prosecution of heretics. But the tribunal really kicked into lethal gear during the reign of Frances’ demented son, Henry II.

Henry was one of the most depraved figures in an era known for its regal brutality. He was, by all accounts, an insipid man, of limited intellect and charm, a bigot and sexual sadist, who was driven by a rabid hatred of the French Calvinists known as the Huguenots. Henry viewed the Huguenots as a “foreign contagion” infecting the homeland, and issued a series of increasingly severe Edicts calling on the Parliament of Paris to enact laws that would extinguish the Protestant threat. When the Parliament refused to act, Henry, enraged, moved on his own authority, using the Chambre Ardente as his covert prosecutorial instrument.

Before the sequestered judges of the secret court, all suspects were presumed guilty, awaiting only sentencing. Calvinist books and Bibles were proscribed. Thousands were cast into dungeons, their property seized as property of the king, their bodies subjected to vile tortures: gouged eyes, cropped ears, tongues extracted by glowing pliers—the usual menu of medieval atrocities. The condemned were carted away by the hundreds to the Place Maubert and set ablaze for the edification of the public.


While it is true, about the barbarity of the persecution of the Huguenots, Henry II was not a sexual sadist or mentally unbalanced. Don't really know where that part came from.... But anyways, good article, and makes a good point.


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Posted 22 September 2013 - 12:53 PM

The lesson is that if the executive branch was practicing tyranny and suppression in 1675, we should not be surprised that it is doing so in 2013.  Shows how far from constitutional governance we are when the legislative and executive branches repeal Habeas Corpus in public view.

And it also demonstrates the insidious role of religion in man's inhumanity to man. :td:


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Posted 22 September 2013 - 06:48 PM

View Postand then, on 21 September 2013 - 07:34 PM, said:

The FF's would be looking on in disgust - for about 3 minutes - then they'd grab rifles and start a web campaign!

They'd all be declared extremists and enemies of the state, obstructionists or Anarchists (in the eyes of Reid).

Then they'd probably be sent to Guantanamo Bay.

Where they'd be promptly waterboarded until those silly notions of 'liberty' escaped them.

Edited by Hatake Kakashi, 22 September 2013 - 06:48 PM.

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 07:08 PM

Hah, just imagine where we would be now if King George III had drones!


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Posted 22 September 2013 - 07:20 PM

View PostGromdor, on 22 September 2013 - 07:08 PM, said:

Hah, just imagine where we would be now if King George III had drones!

Same place, just singing: "God save the Queen" at the end of every film in the theater.

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 07:44 PM

View PostHatake Kakashi, on 22 September 2013 - 06:48 PM, said:

They'd all be declared extremists and enemies of the state, obstructionists or Anarchists (in the eyes of Reid).

Then they'd probably be sent to Guantanamo Bay.

Where they'd be promptly waterboarded until those silly notions of 'liberty' escaped them.

Right, when you get right down to it, the story is rather consistent and old through the human experience. Bummer.  The dark side of man.


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Posted 22 September 2013 - 09:55 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 22 September 2013 - 07:44 PM, said:

Right, when you get right down to it, the story is rather consistent and old through the human experience. Bummer.  The dark side of man.

Government tends to bring out the darkness of the human spirit

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 12:59 PM

Instead of calling for more amendments or a constitutional convention, we should be calling for strict enforcement  of the existing constitution.

As our elected representatives nullify the Fourth Amendment and nullify Habeas Corpus, we are busy pretending they have our best interests at heart. :td:


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Posted 23 September 2013 - 02:39 PM

I agree Babe.

It's all a smoke and mirrors show.

We know where their interests truly lie.

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 10:41 PM

View PostGromdor, on 22 September 2013 - 07:08 PM, said:

Hah, just imagine where we would be now if King George III had drones!
He had the 19th century version, they wore red coats and were the most efficent military force in the world, the FF only won because he didn't send enough of them.


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Posted 23 September 2013 - 10:53 PM

View PostSir Wearer of Hats, on 23 September 2013 - 10:41 PM, said:

He had the 19th century version, they wore red coats and were the most efficent military force in the world, the FF only won because he didn't send enough of them.

He sent 3/4ths of them at one point. That's not all but most. And of course the Germany mercenary's.

Edited by spartan max2, 23 September 2013 - 10:54 PM.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 03:42 AM

Welcome to the America of 2013!

What a terrific Bankster’s Orwellian police state utopia we have created, we have Stop and Frisk with mandated Constitution Free-zone FISA courts, and with the right local permits Americans are allowed (under constant FBI surveillance of course) to dissent in designated Free Speech zones.

But who needs liberty when we got the new Apple IO7 with neat fingerprint id sensor, bet you that the NSA must be drooling on that swell feature!

The democratic principles that this great nation once espoused have been trashed. If the American Founding fathers were alive today they would be advocating revolution and be labeled terrorists! They would be leading patriots like these in this video:




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Posted 24 September 2013 - 04:35 AM

View Postspartan max2, on 23 September 2013 - 10:53 PM, said:

He sent 3/4ths of them at one point. That's not all but most. And of course the Germany mercenary's.
really?
I was under the impression that he sent a token force and then Parliament said "no more".





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